dfranks
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Steak2k1 wrote:
Ya know, I spnet a lot of coin on my Banks system. It required me to buy a Palm Pilot as well. But I must say it was money well spent to date.
For my outlay I got:
A Palm Pilot that works as it is designed to for all its standard applications inlcuding Banks Power + Bluetooth.
An electronic device that allows me to see in real time 12 different gauges including EGT and Boost as opposed to having to purchase a pillar post with a max of only 3 gauges..?? as well its (the Pillar post), something ya hit your head on each time getting into the truck.!
A Tuner that has safety systems built in such that you will not limp your tranny or over fuel your engine. It will defuel as required and it does add about 1.5 mpg overall to my performance.
An OBDII Reader/scanner code clearing unit
So saying it isn't worth it and a waste of money...?? well sorry but I simply do not agree. To date, its been worth every penny in my opinion. And I am not knocking EFI Live either. But for my driving style, it works.
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You could have gotten all that with EDGE products INCLUDING the monitor for I bet 1/3 of what you paid for Banks.
The EDGE has all the safeties the banks has plus a minimum of 25HP more. Buying a pillar pod ($70) is a whole lot cheaper than buying a Palm pilot and they look better.
No offense to you but, anybody in the diesel business will tell you that Banks is overpriced,overated and make nice full page advertisements in the diesel mags.
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Rvndave
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Problem is, the rest of the drivetrain is not robust enough for this extra power. Get ready for the weak links to fail.
2003 Jayco 308fbs eagle 33' tt, towed by a 2003 Ram 3500 slt, quad cab dually, cummins diesel ho, trailer towing package, with 6 speed manual. Hauls better 1/2, 3 kids, myself, and a 2003 ez go clays car.. I have added so far, neon lights, clearance lights, back up lights, black light, lift kit, mud tires, and everything necessary to make the golf cart street legal. It's now ready to spend the winter in the garage for more mods. More neon, strobe lights, alarm, a pa system, maintance, and whatever else that comes along. This golf cart does wheelies and travels thru 7 inches of mud when need be. Two honda eu2000i gens twinned to supply the electrical power. Latest addition an 04 Honda Goldwing. [url]http://www.hometown.aol.com/rvnagain/myhomepage/profile.html[url]
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dfranks
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Rvndave wrote:Problem is, the rest of the drivetrain is not robust enough for this extra power. Get ready for the weak links to fail.
Absolutely!
I got a TC and VB on order with my soft rebuild. You play you pay
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daytona7
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Had an 06 Chevy with the 8.1, Allison and 4:10 rear. Towing my 35 foot Cameo, I was getting between 7.5 and 8.5 mpg, depending on the gas if it was ethanol or not. City was about 9-10. Just traded it in for an 07 GMC with the 6.6 Duramax Turbo, Allison a d 3:73 rear. The 8.1 climbed the hills on 75 north almost as good as being on flat ground. Not sure if I made a mistake or not but the Chevy was becomming a magnet for accidents, 3 since late July.
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dfranks
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daytona7 wrote:Had an 06 Chevy with the 8.1, Allison and 4:10 rear. Towing my 35 foot Cameo, I was getting between 7.5 and 8.5 mpg, depending on the gas if it was ethanol or not. City was about 9-10. Just traded it in for an 07 GMC with the 6.6 Duramax Turbo, Allison a d 3:73 rear. The 8.1 climbed the hills on 75 north almost as good as being on flat ground. Not sure if I made a mistake or not but the Chevy was becomming a magnet for accidents, 3 since late July.
Duramx will get better with more miles on it and make you 8.1 feel like a dog. It usually take somewhere around 30-50k for these diesels to settle in (break-in) for their best mileage. My truck got better after 20k. If I am not mistaken the ecm may control some of this untill you get some K's on the odometer.
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bmackay
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Hello.
We have a Mazda 2005 ,4 lt,4x4 witch we drive every day and we get between 25 to 27 MPG, depending on air filters and such. We recently bought a 1999 Dodge dully 4x4 to carry our camper. The dealers up here in the north are giving away these large trucks at very low prices. However we noticed that running the Dodge dulley empty, was similar to the fuel economy of the Mazda, and when loading the Dodge, many times with green birtch fire wood, the fuel economy of the Dodge was not significiantly effected. So now when we have 3 or more members of the family that have to travel to town,100km,we take the Dodge.The only downside to this is that the dullys don't handel the snow as well as the Mazda so we just go slower. The Dodge disel dully rules.
Brent.
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scottz
Big Lake, MN
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Periodically a diesel truck will hit the throttle and pass me and will be blowing black smoke out its pipe. Are these trucks usually chipped? Is that what causes the diesels to blow black smoke?
I never see gas vehicles blow much smoke anymore.
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Bionic Man
Colorado
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My truck will blow a small puff of smoke when I get on the accelerator stock. I recently added a chip. When I am on the "performance" setting, it blows quite a bit of black smoke when I get on it.
On the tow setting, there isn't much more smoke than stock. I am not a huge fan of the black smoke, but I love the added power.
2003 Dodge Ram 3500 QC SB 4x4 HO Cummins
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rcpd34
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The black smoke is simply unused and wasted diesel. Many of the new tuners are getting away fom this.
Brian
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blacksea-7
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Hi all... I'm a newbie to the site and after reading this thread I thought maybe someone would like a professional opinion to much of what's discussed concerning smoking, chips and such...
Bore/stroke ratios, Rod/stroke ratios, type of injection, style of injection, etc are all terribly relevant. Diesel being a rather lazy fuel prefers a long stroke... generally 1/1.1 bore/stroke ratio is the guideline...
Okay, now for the serious stuff. Current technology is complex... trust me, the engineers know what they're doing. Roughly 80% of the O2 in the cylinder of a diesel actually becomes intimate with the fuel as diesel is a non-homogenous fuel... hence, the reason for incredibly high injection pressures.
Once the diesel is warm, thermal efficiencies are at their highest as cylinder temps help atomize the fuel. If you're chipped and blowing smoke (years ago there use to be in effect a Bosch smoke limit generally set to 110% of max fuel on the rack) and it worked until CARB nosed in forcing technology to evolve.
Smoke is nothing more than unburned fuel leaving the cylinder... a total waste of energy. I don't care how you cut it, it's fact... sorry guys.
Over fueling is detrimental to nearly every reciprocating and rotating part of the engine as the unburned fuel washes lubricant from the rings and piston skirt eventually diluting the lubricating oil which doesn't help one rotating part as it's washing the lubricant from mating surfaces. Bottom line.. it's indisputable... can't be argued. Add to it the buildup on the crown of the piston, valves, guides, stems, you're not doing your investement any favors.
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