RE_Todd
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I had an 85 Toyota 4Runner, it weighed 3800 lbs for the trail. My current rig is an FToy; tube chassis, alloy wheels, 37" tires, no sheetmetal, lots of goodies. It scales at 2950 lbs, ready for the trail, no driver. I don't think you'll have a Jeep under 3K, and a Sammy will be close to 3K.
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Legdoc
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Weighed my 06 Rubicon todat at a CAT scale. With full fuel tank 3880 Lbs. 100% stock no modifications or accessories.
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mapguy
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Didn't have this info with me yesterday.
Two examples...
2006 2500HD DA EC SB 4wd chevy and 2008 Ragen FA3005 Gelcoat, gear for three, 4x6volt batteries, full propane, full water tank, empty grey tank, 5 gallons water in black, 40 gallons in fuel tank. 2 dirt bikes crossways in rear -KTM 525 EXC and KTM 200 EXC. Loaded for a week trip. Lots of beer and food. Firewood, propane and 15 gallons mixed gas in pickup bed.
Truck Front axle 4400
Truck Rear Axle 6540
Trailer front axle 5660
Trailer 2nd axle 5820
#2 Three bikes mostly the same for 3 day trip, water not full - not as much food, beer and pre-mix or spare propane.
Truck front axle 4340
Truck rear axle 6240
Trailer front axle 5260
Trailer rear axle 5520
Used the same Washington State freeway scale for measurement.
Have several more scale records but they are very similar....I have had the rear axle up to 6820 with grey and black tanks partially full on a return trip before learning to load bikes crossways and to the rear to lighten the PIN a bit.
Just don't think you have enough capacity or space to haul a Sammy plus 2 dirt bikes if you bring food/beer, gear, fuel, and water.
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mapguy
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One thing not mentioned is the need for "drive on" wheel well box. Factory offered them as an option. Without this option you would need to beef up the wheel well opening so the sidewall doesn't sag/seperate due to the load.
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Mike Mike Motorbike
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I think the tires will fit in between them.
I just can't believe it...........
I guess I can't buy a jeep of some sort and bring my little girls off-roading.
Well ..... it will save me money , I won't have to sell my other truck and I can just borrow my bros. 250 honda EX (quad) and give them rides around camp on that......
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Everybody going slower than me is a "Idiot".
Don't they know I'M going the right speed.....LOL
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Mike Mike Motorbike
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Hmmm.... how much different does the gelcoat weigh compared to the tin sides??
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SAS!
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Mike Mike Motorbike wrote:Hmmm.... how much different does the gelcoat weigh compared to the tin sides??
I've been told the fiberglass adds 1000-1200 Lbs.
Have you thought about a four seat side by side like a modified Yamaha Rhino in place of a jeep?
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Mike Mike Motorbike
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must be street legal for area I plan to use it at.
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RicJones
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Instead of a jeep, have you considered a side-by-side?
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Mike Mike Motorbike
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OK weighed the trailer today.
A little more than half propane , No water no bikes . Just the stuff that's in there all the time.
This is the revised weights.
Truck alone
Front ....................4200
Back .....................3080
Total .....................7320
Trailer Total...........10,100
Pin .........................4600
Axles .....................5540
Truck and trailer ........17,420
Jeep Curb weight................................................3,000 ( as per Internet )
Samurai Curb Weight .........................................2,000 ( as per Internet )
Tracker .............................................................2200 ( as per Internet )
GCVW of Truck and Trailer ..............................17,420
Gross Combined Weight with Tracker.................19,620....
GCWR ..............................................................23,000 Gross Combined Weight Rating ???
Under GCVWR...............3380
Trailer GVWR....................................................14,110
Tracker with bikes and gear 3000=..................13,100 .... .1000 under trailer Max
Trailer GAWR Gross AXLE?? Weight Rating is.........12,000
Axles Dry 5540 plus Tracker+Bikes+gear 3000 = 8,540
Plus water..............................................................9000 that 3000 under...
I think I may be Ok to haul the Tracker or Sami .
Butt what is my rear truck axle max????? 4600 seems high....
G rated tires x 4 =??????
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