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skipnchar wrote:It would be pretty silly of a manufacturer to NOT include ALL outlets under GFI protection. doesn't matter WHERE it's located it'll still shock you under the right circumstances...
Not all of my receptacles are GFCI protected. I believe code requires the ones near any water source (kitchen/bath) or outdoors to be protected by a GFCI.
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Everything downstream of a gfi on the same circuit is protected by the gfi... and will go out if the gfi is tripped. Same as at home.
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We'd been skunked by that before, so when one of the circuits in our DP went out I went to the bathroom to reset the GFCI. Only, it wasn't tripped. We discovered a second GFCI in the basement about an hour later.
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My vintage (and European) camper has no GFCI. It didn't before I rewired it, and it didn't occur to me to use one. I used a 15amp surge protector as my breaker box. Two lines go off (to front and to back). I want to add an outside outlet. Where should I use the GFCI? I've seen plug-in adaptor units.
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rebapuck wrote:My vintage (and European) camper has no GFCI. It didn't before I rewired it, and it didn't occur to me to use one. I used a 15amp surge protector as my breaker box. Two lines go off (to front and to back). I want to add an outside outlet. Where should I use the GFCI? I've seen plug-in adaptor units.
It looks like you cut the cord going to the surge and spliced it to some type of terminal block, eh? If that's the case, replace the terminal block with a single gang electrical box. A cast aluminum one like the ones used on exterior lights and receptacles would be fine. Now carefully search the GFCI receptacle area at Lowe's for a "blank face GFCI outlet" This is a GFCI receptacle, without any place to plug into. It strictly provides downstream protection, in this case to your surge block. Follow the instructions that came with the GFCI and you should be fine.
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I had exactly the same thing happen a year or so ago. No power to the outside outlets, and found they were powered of the GFCI in the bathroom. It's cheaper to do it that way. You can make each outlet a separate GFCI if you want to spend the $$ for a GFCI outlet at each location.
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soren, not sure what you mean by terminal block. The black box and blue/white wire off it is a defunct 12v. The two orange plugs provide power to my outlets and light fixtures.
I cut the plug off the surge protector simply to shorten it. It has a new male plug. The extention cord, from the power source, comes in an opening in the camper side and the surge protector connects to that. I can run a second cord if I need electric on the curbside. I'm thinking of putting an underside outlet on the curbside, coming off a junction box under the seat. That would definately be GFCI.
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tomdrobin wrote:I had exactly the same thing happen a year or so ago. No power to the outside outlets, and found they were powered of the GFCI in the bathroom. It's cheaper to do it that way. You can make each outlet a separate GFCI if you want to spend the $$ for a GFCI outlet at each location. You shouldn't "daisy chain" GFCI outlets. That is, you should have one at the start of the circuit wired as a feed through, then standard outlets downstream. GFCI's can be sensitive and false trip for a lot of reasons, like a shared neutral upstream, daisy chaining, or even a slight bit of moist air in a fan they are connected to. Randomly adding unnecessary GFCI outlets to a circuit isn't a real good idea. It is expensive, does nothing to add to the safety of a rig, and creates additional maintainence and troubleshooting issues.
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beemerphile1 wrote:skipnchar wrote:It would be pretty silly of a manufacturer to NOT include ALL outlets under GFI protection. doesn't matter WHERE it's located it'll still shock you under the right circumstances...
Not all of my receptacles are GFCI protected. I believe code requires the ones near any water source (kitchen/bath) or outdoors to be protected by a GFCI.
That's my understanding also and to my knowledge my one GFCI is on the bath outlet and I think it only protects one other outlet and that is the outside outlet. All the others are on normal CBs and not GFCI like in your home.
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LarryJM wrote:beemerphile1 wrote:skipnchar wrote:It would be pretty silly of a manufacturer to NOT include ALL outlets under GFI protection. doesn't matter WHERE it's located it'll still shock you under the right circumstances...
Not all of my receptacles are GFCI protected. I believe code requires the ones near any water source (kitchen/bath) or outdoors to be protected by a GFCI.
That's my understanding also and to my knowledge my one GFCI is on the bath outlet and I think it only protects one other outlet and that is the outside outlet. All the others are on normal CBs and not GFCI like in your home.
Larry
Larry, I think you will find that the forgotten fridge outlet is on the protected circuit also…
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