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dieseldave56

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Posted: 10/12/09 05:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Howdy; I'm in need of the ride specifications for the Spartan IC2242 chassis that is under my 1997 American Tradition!! Actually Mountain Master and other Sparatn intermediate series chassis will work.
I've gotten very little help from Spartan to acquire a chassis manual or get the specs. ( The Parts Dept guy switched me to Service Dept when I originally asked about the OEM Ridewell HCVes (which are out of production since 2002 and out of stock by 2004) and the chassis manual. The Service guy told me they don't use that model HCV any longer and gave me back to Parts dept. The Parts dept then told me that the production line uses a Ridewell "universal" HCV. So no help there.)

Ridewell gave me the same information concerning the "universal " replacement HCV. So no help there either.





I have replaced all the OEM Ridewell HCVes, dump valves, PPV, plumbing now I need the ride height specifications. I believe that spec is from the shock tower bolt centerline to the bottom shock retaner bolt centerline or it is from the bottom of the double frame to the bottom of the air spring bag mount.

Anyone have that information? Thanks, dave

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* This post was edited 10/12/09 05:23pm by dieseldave56 *

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Posted: 10/12/09 06:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Dave, I see what you want to do, I don't know what chassis IC2242 is?
but I have a mountain Master chassis on my Travel Supreme, And i could give you my ride height Dim. but they might not be the same as the ( IC2242? ) so let me know if you want them. Scott


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Posted: 10/12/09 06:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I could give you mine too, but we have a non-standard front axle so they'd be of no use to you.

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Thanks for the reply. Spartan chassis has Mountain Master, MM 2242, and other intermediate series chassis(such as the IC, IC 2242,K2 , K2 2242, ect)which are basicly the same. Spartan also have chassis like the EXP-2001 & Alpine with less GVWR .

At this point I need somewhere to start, so if you have the point to point dimensions for solid axle Mountain Master , I would appreciate the help. thanks

* This post was edited 10/21/09 12:37am by dieseldave56 *

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I have a 1997 newmar mountainair on a spartin mountain master chassis. I have changed two out of the three valves with no problems with ajusting the ride hight. If you want the book pages sent to you send me a privet message with fax number and i will send it.


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dieseldave56 wrote:

Thanks for the reply. Spartan chassis has Mountain Master and other intermediate series chassis(such as the IC2242,K2 & K3)which are basicly the same. Spartan also have chassis like the EXP-2001 & Alpine with less GVWR .

At this point I need somewhere to start, so if you have the point to point dimensions for solid axle Mountain Master , I would appreciate the help. thanks


Dave,
I answered your question in detail earlier on the Yahoo American Coach forum.


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Thank you again Steve for your answer and input, I really appreciate it. But as I replied to you , there were differences in the replys that I did receive from several others and any conclusive concenus is reassuring.

Thanks again , dave

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After a week of searching thru all the resources I know to conclude what the actual ride height dimensions of my 1997 Spartan IC 2242 chassis are has come to not.

I have collected several Spartan chassis ride height dimensions of various years and chassis models ( including a IFS) from folks that were very kind to reply, but no two have the same dimensions or have dissimilar point to point locations.
example: some say shock mount centerlines, some say top of the spring bag to top( or centerline )of axles, some have top ( or centerline) of axle to bottom of frame. One friend measured the OEM HCVes linkage length.

Since I have replaced all three OEM Ridewell HCV with the newer Ridewell Extreme-Air HCV which mounts different ( horizonal and not vertical) any HCV dimensions are worthless

If any of you good folks can think of another avenue or point me in another direction to obtain the service manual or get verification from another IC 2242 chassis , I would appreciate it muchly.

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dieseldave56 wrote:

After a week of searching thru all the resources I know to conclude what the actual ride height dimensions of my 1997 Spartan IC 2242 chassis are has come to not.

I have collected several Spartan chassis ride height dimensions of various years and chassis models ( including a IFS) from folks that were very kind to reply, but no two have the same dimensions or have dissimilar point to point locations.
example: some say shock mount centerlines, some say top of the spring bag to top( or centerline )of axles, some have top ( or centerline) of axle to bottom of frame. One friend measured the OEM HCVes linkage length.

Since I have replaced all three OEM Ridewell HCV with the newer Ridewell Extreme-Air HCV which mounts different ( horizonal and not vertical) any HCV dimensions are worthless

If any of you good folks can think of another avenue or point me in another direction to obtain the service manual or get verification from another IC 2242 chassis , I would appreciate it muchly.

dave


There must be a formula for figuring this out....have you tried to get hold of an engineer at Spartan?....or press your way up the chain of command and see if you can't peak someones curiosity?


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Posted: 10/21/09 06:49am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What does Spartan say?

And ride height valve mounting, brand or model is not relevant.

They only take the "input" from the rod and translate that to ride height. The ride height is normally from some point on the chassis to some point on the axle or ground.

* This post was edited 10/21/09 07:22am by wolfe10 *


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