RayChez
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What is going to happen in 2010 for owners of diesel powered coaches that do not have the latest emission controls. For example diesel engines of the early 2000 era, I was reading on a newspaper today that even heavy road construction equipment have to meet the 2010 standards and the construction company spokesman said it would cost around 10K dollars per unit to upgrade to meet the 2010 emission standards. It also said that the government would help in the cost. Does that mean that all of us that have diesel engines from the early 2000 have to add like a smog device to our engines or EGR. Can somebody explain.
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tahiti16
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Smog laws usually effect that year and newer vehicles not retro. There have been some exceptions, like the stupid retard modules they put on mid 60's cars that all it did was cause overheating and loss of mileage.
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deandec
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If you are a business and have a fleet of two diesel rigs, you may have to retrofit. So far, diesel rigs for non-commercial use do not need to test or retrofit.
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CarlGeo
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I believe, if you read the law, that motorcoaches are specifically exempted at this time. However, if you look historically, at California air pollution laws, it is only a matter of time until the regulations are revised to include ALL vehicles. Therefore, be ready for a fight that we will probably, eventually loose.
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West Coast FT
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Actually, this legistation has been kicking around in commitee for a few years. Its most likely retrofit impact, if any, is to commercial/agriculture, not recreational RVers. Cali is still the land of tourism, anything which impacts those dollar inflows would be "Nix'd" at the source, especially these days.
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West Coast FT
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CarlGeo wrote:I believe, if you read the law, that motorcoaches are specifically exempted at this time. However, if you look historically, at California air pollution laws, it is only a matter of time until the regulations are revised to include ALL vehicles. Therefore, be ready for a fight that we will probably, eventually loose.
Really, explain how Non Catalyst emission Ford F53 still pass smog checks every two years. However, I do think the diesels should pony up another $75 in lieu of having to take their units in for smog testing. Just looking for a level playing field.
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two-niner
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WESTCOAST: You are a true Californian.
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tporter
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I don't want to sway away from the initial question but, Westcoast: Are you kidding me?!! Please tell me the logic behind making diesels pay $75 in lieu of smog testing, no forget it I don't even want to know. I'm not going to waste my time looking at your profile but i'm guessing you don't have a diesel. I would love to tell you what I really think about your statement but that's not what this forum is about. Please excuse Westcoast's reply, not all California's are knuckle#@*&#.
Back to the initial post. I emailed CARB yesterday and asked them the same question, haven't heard back from them yet but I will post the reply when I do.
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deandec
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The current regs are posted on the CARB website. Interpreting the regs takes a bit of hopscotch but in essence it is as I stated above currently.
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RayChez
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What really got my attention was that this was for all diesel commercial trucks, construction tractors that move a lot of dirt in highway construction and farm equipment. It showed a picture of a highway contractor standing by his Caterpillar earth movers and complaining that it would cost ten thousand per paddle wheel earth movers. He said some of the older equipment was barely worth the ten thousand and that it was not worth paying to upgrade the equipment and that he was going to sell all the older equipment in other states that don't have the regulations California has. So I was thinking that if it included all those big rigs that are on the road, I was wondering if we were also included in this new regulation of emission controls. I have the 3126-E Caterpillar engine and I don't know what it has as far as emission controls. Might have to register in another state.
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