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star52656

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Posted: 11/05/09 10:04pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I am considering a 2010 Titanium 28E33SAi this unit has a dry weight of 10,705# and with the options I want I think it would weigh at least 11,250# and loaded with our stuff it should be at 11,750# to 12,000# at the most. We haul no water in tank and carry very little food and drink. Just lawn chairs couple of bikes tools and other camping gear. My truck is rated for combined truck and trailer weight of 20,000# and rated to tow a fifth wheel at 12,800# GVWR. Truck has a 9900# GVWR, front axle GAWR of 4,800 to 5,200#, rear axle GAWR of 6,830 and a payload of 3,255#. I weighed my truck the other day to remember where I am at and it weighed 4,520 on the steer axle and 3,200# on the drive axle for a total of 7,720# and that was with full tank of diesel and myself. Add my wife and a couple of my grand-kids and we would be at 8,150# or so... now I am looking at 20,150# combined weight. If I add the pin weight (20%) of trailer I get 2,400 plus the 8,150 for a GVW of 10,550 so I am over. But my drive axle would come in at 6,000#. So, first of all, did I put in too much info and second, how do these numbers look to you? thanks, Mitch

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Posted: 11/06/09 12:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No you did not provide too much inforamtion. Take the trailer to a good scale and weigh the front axle of the truck, back axle with the trailer on and the total of the rig. With that information and adding in the items you will put in the trailer you will know if you are really over the limit.


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Posted: 11/06/09 05:24am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With a 9900 GVWR and a 6820 RAWR you must have a F350 SRW.

Good unladin axle numbers as many folks don't weigh the front and rear axles seperate. The trucks total weight is worthless for figuring axle loads.

Your truck has a 6820 RAWR that carries the pin weight. Your trucks rear axle weighs 3200 lbs which leaves approx 3620 lbs for a payload. Now subtract the weight of the 5th wheel hitch which can range fron 250-400 lbs. That leaves you with approx 3200+ lbs for a pin weight. Thats max axle/tire loads so I would stay under those numbers.

Your trucks front axle weight changes non to very little with a 5er so its not a concern unless you carry a snow plow or a big heavy aftermarket brush buster bumper and a winch.

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Posted: 11/06/09 06:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you weighed it with the 5th wheel hitch in the bed, then do NOT subtract for the 5th wheel hitch. At 3200lbs, I suspect the hitch was already in the bed.

IMHO you're making a dangerous assumption with the pin weight, but you do have several hundred pounds of "wiggle room" capacity on the rear of that truck, so you should be okay.

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Posted: 11/06/09 07:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I doubt that you will have enough truck without exceeding at least one of the manufacturers weight numbers. A 10,700 pound dry ( a useless number by the way) will very likely yield a trailer delivered weight of over 11.5K, and a ready to camp weight far closer to 13,000. Now if you were to take 20% of that 13K you will very likely see a pin weight of 2600 pounds. Now, take your truck loaded ready to camp to the scales and get an accurate weight. Add 200 pounds for a regular hitch and then add the calculated 2600 pounds for the pin. What number did you end up with? That is a good starting point.


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Posted: 11/06/09 09:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I,d say your pretty decent,your #,s are pretty close to a 3500 dodge srw. that i have.My pin wt is 28/2900 lbs.14600 loaded,22800 gcw.You will find that many people on here have different levels of comfort re their set up

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