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RE: Salt free water conditioner
Bumpy,
I have had this system in my motorhome for several years, here in the Yuma area, I would guess about one out five RVers have it in their rigs,it is nothing new, and needs no plumbing alterations whatever.
Al C
what part of "rebuild your plumbing" did you fail to understand? and what is the effect of continually returning waste water to your fresh water tank?
bumpy
yes, people have mentioned this on many occasions. I have never seen anybody who has actually implemented this "easily".
First if the RO unit is to soften water obviously it needs to feed the shower and other faucets. The only use for it would be in flushing the toilet. Not a whole lot of consumption there.
The incoming water would pass thru the RO unit and go into the fresh water tank. The reject RO water would have to go to a second tank. The water distribution system would have to be modified to feed the toilet and any other use points for the reject water separately from the distribution system for the clean water.
This “salvaging” of the RO reject water is commonly thrown out here as an option, but I would dare say that of the people that talk about it, out of a thousand people posting, only one has actually done it. The rest just silently dump it to drain.
One of those “great” ideas frequently posted in various columns/forums and rarely implemented. Or at least implemented only by those in an Earth roamer in the Brazilian jungles.
If you can quickly and easily sketch out how you plan on doing this in a reasonable manner, I await your answer.
bumpy
so you and 20% of others are using RO to treat all water in the RV and saving the reject water for reuse? I can easily see how it would be feasible to use a RO system under the kitchen sink to purify drinking water and to run that little reject water back to the fresh water holding tank, but to so treat all water and collect the majority of the water that is rejected seems difficult to me without a total rebuild of the water system. How big is your recovery tank and what do you use that water for? where is that located and how did you plumb to it? do you have a separate water pump then to pump that reject water to selected use points? Some specifics please.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/21/09 04:33pm |
Class A Motorhomes
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RE: Salt free water conditioner
Bumpy, I did not fail to understand anything,I suggested that you do some more reasearch before posting.
But, you have quaint way of communicating your sarcasm.
The return of the water to the fresh tank has been covered many times here, do a search.
Al C
You waste 0% water by returning to fresh tank.Do some more reading.
Al C
You can buy a 50 gallon per day reverse osmosis system
I'll second this. RO is a proven technology and you get very pure water out of one.
and you waste about 2/3 of the water to drain. unless of course you want to totally rebuild your plumbing, new storage tanks, etc.
bumpy
what part of "rebuild your plumbing" did you fail to understand? and what is the effect of continually returning waste water to your fresh water tank?
bumpy
yes, people have mentioned this on many occasions. I have never seen anybody who has actually implemented this "easily".
First if the RO unit is to soften water obviously it needs to feed the shower and other faucets. The only use for it would be in flushing the toilet. Not a whole lot of consumption there.
The incoming water would pass thru the RO unit and go into the fresh water tank. The reject RO water would have to go to a second tank. The water distribution system would have to be modified to feed the toilet and any other use points for the reject water separately from the distribution system for the clean water.
This “salvaging” of the RO reject water is commonly thrown out here as an option, but I would dare say that of the people that talk about it, out of a thousand people posting, only one has actually done it. The rest just silently dump it to drain.
One of those “great” ideas frequently posted in various columns/forums and rarely implemented. Or at least implemented only by those in an Earth roamer in the Brazilian jungles.
If you can quickly and easily sketch out how you plan on doing this in a reasonable manner, I await your answer.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/21/09 01:24pm |
Class A Motorhomes
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RE: Annual Maintenance Cost
Whatever you come up with, add at least $500/yr. for tire replacement.
:h
don't see the question here myself. 6-8 tires every X? years.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/21/09 01:20pm |
Class A Motorhomes
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RE: Salt free water conditioner
You waste 0% water by returning to fresh tank.Do some more reading.
Al C
You can buy a 50 gallon per day reverse osmosis system
I'll second this. RO is a proven technology and you get very pure water out of one.
and you waste about 2/3 of the water to drain. unless of course you want to totally rebuild your plumbing, new storage tanks, etc.
bumpy
what part of "rebuild your plumbing" did you fail to understand? and what is the effect of continually returning waste water to your fresh water tank?
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/21/09 06:17am |
Class A Motorhomes
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RE: Earthbound TTs instead of an Airstream?
snip However, I was greatly impressed with the Everlite by Evergreen RV.
me too. only problem is that the "neat" floorplans with the revolving TV have the corner shower which has too small an opening.
I especially liked the model with the rear slide sofa with overhead bed, and entertainment center cabinet.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/21/09 05:43am |
Travel Trailers
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RE: Annual Maintenance Cost
lots of previous posts where people claim it is not much more than maintaining a gasser, but then in the fine print they say they do everything themselves. obviously there is a reason $$$$ that they do.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/21/09 05:34am |
Class A Motorhomes
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RE: FANTASTIC FAN INSTALL-CLASS A
I replaced my little bathroom whirr and buzz with a MaxxAire type of fan in the cover. no removing old stuff/sealing/etc. just mount over old vent cover.
noise moved out and away, can leave operating in the rain, much nicer than a fantastic one IMHO.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/21/09 05:25am |
Tech Issues
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RE: Dish TV with a harddrive
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Comment: I have used both Dish and DirecTV DVR's and frankly I'm very impressed by the Dish Network unit. I feel it is the best on the market.. Dual input and DUAL OUTPUT allows me to watch one show while wife watches another.
one thing about that Dish ad puzzles me. the part where they say you can start watching it in one room and then go to bed and watch it in another. I have three TVs linked up with splitters etc. to my one old style receiver, and can move around among all three of them. how does that differ from their statement about start watching on one and finish on another? I understand your difference with being able to watch two different shows however which I obviously can't do.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 04:09pm |
Technology Corner
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RE: Sleeping in Camper Vans Could Be Deadly
rule number one.
never take a claw hammer to a hatchet fight.
bumpy :s
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 01:09pm |
Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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RE: Winterizing your icemaker
I disconnect the line at the solenoid and allow to drain from icemaker/refrigerator. put a hose shutoff there and run pink stuff to that point. I assume that the part of the icemaker inside the freezer gets fairly chilly during operation.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 01:07pm |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Disabled and Work?
Bumpy, I don't really have the time nor do I want to go into all the specifics of working and disability. Here's a guide for you and everyone else to look at regarding disability and work.
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/10095.html
it seems to me that my post was very simple, 1) the $ limit applies to reducing SS payments. what is that limit?
2) that dependent on type of disability, better be careful of type of work you take on.
seems that any "expert" could basically correct those off the top of ones head.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 01:04pm |
RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
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RE: Avoid Oklahoma if retiring
Retirement tax burden by state
This chart shows the tax burden by state for a retired couple making 60K a year.
I asked a friend who lives in OK and her response was "Yeah, when TX succeeds we're moving across the state line."
I sort of question the accuracy of that chart referenced. For MD a couple with $60 K of income would be taxed about $1300? at a tax rate of at least 7.5% that would mean about 17,000 of taxable income or deductions/exemptions of 43K? seems excessive to me.
bumpy
Maryland bases taxes on federal adjusted income. Additionally it does not tax Social Security and gives seniors (over 65) an additional $1000 deduction each. There is also a tax credit for taxable pension and retirement annuity (calculated) for those who receive less than $24K (per person) from social security.
Maryland also has a graduated income tax starting at 2% going up to 6.5%.
So the figure seems reasonable to me.
that 2% is only on the first $3,000 income, IIRC, and that amounts to $90 and the rest is more. 5% is pretty much it plus 2 1/2% additional in most counties. so you can basically figure 7.5 % state tax.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 09:57am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: NEVER TOWED DO I NEED BRAKE SY
There are so many people out there who totally disregard safety or rules...Some people do the risk/reward/cost trade-offs and come to conclusions that are different than yours.
I think that those people, and we all know who they are, take only the cost part of that equation into consideration and are basically just too cheap to spend the $1000 or whatever is needed to be safe. the minimal risk is merely their crutch to justify their decision.
but that's JMHO.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 09:28am |
Dinghy Towing
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RE: Tow bars vs Tow Dolly
Okay, I get that just about everyone prefers the tow bar if you have a car that can be towed that way. Next question:
What is the best car to tow 4 down? In other words, what is the difference if its front wheel drive or rear wheel drive?
I'd say no difference at all IF the owner's manual gives the go ahead to tow it 4 down.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 08:16am |
Class A Motorhomes
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RE: Avoid Oklahoma if retiring
Retirement tax burden by state
This chart shows the tax burden by state for a retired couple making 60K a year.
I asked a friend who lives in OK and her response was "Yeah, when TX succeeds we're moving across the state line."
I sort of question the accuracy of that chart referenced. For MD a couple with $60 K of income would be taxed about $1300? at a tax rate of at least 7.5% that would mean about 17,000 of taxable income or deductions/exemptions of 43K? seems excessive to me.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 08:13am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Avoid Oklahoma if retiring
Texas, no income tax, no tax on groceries, reasonable property taxes, reasonable vehicle licenses. Economy is up there with the best. Stick house insurance is high.
when I was considering moving to TX, the no income tax just about balanced out the excessive property tax (plus MUD) on about a $250,000 house. State Farm would only insure my house because I already had their insurance. some problem with houses sinking into the sand plus mold, etc.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 04:54am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: Avoid Oklahoma if retiring
Unless you love to pay taxes avoid Oklahoma if retiring. Currently we pay sales tax on everything ranging from 8.5 to 11% including groceries, 6% income tax, high propery taxes, rediculous license fees, 3 times what most states charge for a boat and a state law that guarantees a 6% profit margin on all retail sales. This state looks for ways to screw citizens and will gladly do it whenever possible. For example if you don't pay your state income tax quarterly but pay it on time they collect the tax plus fine you. Add the 3rd highest number of turpikes in the nation and you can count on some of the highest taxes in the nation.
doesn't your property tax vary with location? I would love to pay only 6% state income tax myself. I know that VA taxes my boat at a much higher rate than my house. I guess that is sort of fair as houses are more necessary than boats. and I would think that underwithholding would subject you to penalty anywhere.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 04:49am |
General RVing Issues
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RE: streets and trips usb gps
they make usb EXTension cords.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 04:42am |
Technology Corner
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RE: towing an avalanche
what is your hitch and RV rated to tow? 3,500 lbs.? or more?
how much does an avalanche weigh? I would "guess" that the answer to your question is No.
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 04:40am |
Dinghy Towing
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RE: Disabled and Work?
Ditto to that, I am a Social Security Manager and there hasn't been any correct information given yet. Don't try and get legal or gov't info from a forum. There are specific rules regarding disability and work that Social Security employees undergo extensive training to learn. You need to call your local Social Security office, call 1-800-772-1213, or go online for general questions.
as an expert, could you please identify the inaccuracies in my statement;
"I think that $800 figure applies to your SS being cut back. If you are getting disability SS cause you can't work, and you take a job felling trees in the forest, they may question your inability to work.
bumpy "
thanks
bumpy
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Bumpyroad
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11/20/09 04:38am |
RVing with Disabilities and General Health Issues
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