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RE: power sofa v dinette bed in RT 210 P

While I've not owned either of these models I have looked at both extensively and the power sofa is FAR more comfortable to sit on. The twin beds are not at all comfortable as the cushion back is not ergonomically designed IMO. For sleeping it would probably be less of an issue. My Traverse has a sofa and it's pretty comfy but I think RT's sofas are better than PW's from a comfort POV.
CSG 11/13/09 11:15am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Too Many Campers

I try to avoid summer travel when I can but out here in Idaho there are many places wide open to boondock in peace and quiet. I'm not a campground/rv park person either but do stay in one on occasion to use their facilities.
CSG 08/26/09 08:17am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Mounting a Fantastic Fan in a PW Traverse fiberglass poptop

That's very nice but I'm not a guy who does that stuff and there are ribs on the Traverse top. I would have to have it done by someone and my local RV shop (that services my Nash) said no way they'd touch it.
CSG 08/13/09 02:39am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
Mounting a Fantastic Fan in a PW Traverse fiberglass poptop

Scares me to death to have this done but the van could definitely use this. There are no holes for a vent (or a fan) so it would have to be cut into the after-market made pop-top. I talked to Phil about this awhile ago and he told me he knew of people who had done it but I got the sense that PW didn't like the idea of their top being cut into. Anyone have first hand experience with this??
CSG 08/11/09 10:35pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: New PW Lexor RD enclosed bath? Who knew?!?

SoCal, that's what we did on the Traverse. My wife sewed a lining in that adds a bit of insulation but also blocks out the light. That should be standard not something one needs to do after market. The RT folks on the new models use a suede cloth type of material that has better light blocking characteristics.
CSG 08/10/09 07:44pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: New PW Lexor RD enclosed bath? Who knew?!?

Have you seen the PW curtains? They're far flimsier and transparent and use the same type of tracks. IMO, both should be using day/night blinds at these prices.
CSG 08/10/09 09:19am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Class B's that will fit in a garage.

While a porta-potti works fine, something to consider if you're not traveling solo is that you use the facility right in the middle of the living area on a Traverse. No privacy. Want a genset? Be prepared to haul one inside or on a Hitch-Haul. Understand, these things are not problems, just differences in what you're used to. I'm looking at upgrading to something a bit more refined but I don't have the parking issues you do.
CSG 08/09/09 09:52pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Roadtrek closed again?

I just spoke to Raymond at Van City RV about ordering a RT 190P and he called me back after speaking to them and gave me a guesstimate of about 4 weeks. So I guess they're still in business.
CSG 08/09/09 09:39pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Class B's that will fit in a garage.

I've got a Traverse and while it's garageable, it's a loooooooong way from an Excel regarding comfort.
CSG 08/09/09 06:58pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Pleasureway love

The Excel is a beautiful layout. Very open feeling. It's too bad they decided to use the Ford chassis instead of the Chevy or not offer the option of both. I don't find my Ford based Traverse too bad but it's much lighter weight and drives OK without needing mods. The real problem with the Ford on all the Ford based RV's is that tiny tunnel for the passenger's legs. My wife hates it.
CSG 08/08/09 10:16am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: 2010 Roadtrek 190P pics

The problem with the Lexor closed bath as I found out is that you bang your head against the molded wall that sticks out right to the toilet and makes the bathroom totally unusable for all but midgets. When you're on the pot you have to cock your head to the side in order to not have it pressed against the wall. RT's is a far better execution of that concept regardless of the pros and cons of other areas between the brands. I'm 6' and about 180#. BTW, other than the bath and not liking the small sofa bed in the PW, the layout is very attractive but on this closed bath concept on the Chevy chassis, the RT is better executed.
CSG 08/08/09 10:07am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: 2010 Roadtrek 190P pics

That's the model that made me take a whole new look at RT.
CSG 08/07/09 07:24pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: New PW Lexor RD enclosed bath? Who knew?!?

Well, if I were to buy a new rig right now, it would be the RT 190P enclosed bath. I'm not sure I liked any of the PW's over the RT's which really floored me considering how much I like my Traverse. No question that PW does a better looking interior but the RT, for me, has far more comfortable sofa beds and curtains. Thank God they're both in business still so we can hash these things over. ;)
CSG 08/06/09 08:53pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: Wal Mart in Medford, Oregon

Many of those those signs are due to city ordinances but many of those Walmarts are private property and management has discretion. In Missoula, MT for instance, there is a city ordinance prohibiting overnight parking and requiring the signs. Walmart put up the signs and told the city, to bugger off. Plenty of folks overnight there. ALWAYS ask and make your decision after speaking to a manager. Pay no attention to forum WM cops and the snobs who insist you stay in paid campgrounds when all you're doing is overnighting on a trip. I do agree that you should do no more than park but if we have our fiver, the slide is going out otherwise we can't move around the coach. But keep the chairs, awnings, BBQ,s party lights, etc. saved for proper camping areas. We also shop at the WM's we stay at. Quid pro quo and all.
CSG 08/06/09 09:32am Public Lands, Boondocking and Dry Camping
RE: B as primary (only) vehicle

I'm thinking of keeping a B as my personal vehicle. I currently have a B, full size truck and my daily driver is a Mazda Miata. The Miata is leased though and I can turn it in or keep it (and pay off the lease) next year. I've been thinking of getting rid of all of them and getting something like a 190P. My wife has a Camry Hybrid so we'd have two vehicles. We also work out of the house so we don't drive all that many annual miles.
CSG 08/05/09 08:24pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: RT vs. PW

What is it with some of you people?? What difference at all does it make on my timing as to when I buy my next B?? A poster makes a mysterious comment bashing an unnamed manufacturer irrelevant to my original post which had nothing to do with any of these issues and now I'm being grilled as to when I'm buying my next rig and if not soon enough to please some of you I shouldn't be concerned with a comment made by another poster. Good Lord!
CSG 08/03/09 10:53am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: RT vs. PW

Well, *I* am the OP and how in the world can you make an assumption about when I'll be buying another rig?? How am I supposed to do research if I come to a forum like this, read a post like yours, and you're playing cat and mouse? Either say what you know or don't rumor monger. It does no one any good and it's rather unbecoming behavior IMO.
CSG 08/03/09 09:17am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: View/Navion

Yes, they're Class C's not B's. I've looked at them and they are very clever in their design and have a refreshing style. Personally, I don't want slideouts and I think they have very little net CCC.
CSG 08/03/09 08:57am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: RT vs. PW

Lynn, what's the point or value in a post like that with a comment like that? You make an accusation that a company may be dealing dishonestly with its dealers and then say but don't ask me to name them or explain yourself? Not terribly helpful to someone wondering what in the hell you're talking about.
CSG 08/03/09 08:51am Class B - Camping Van Conversions
RE: RT vs. PW

jjson, if I end up buying used (which is more likely), I will be comfortable with pretty much anything that either company makes. I saw a great low miles 2002 Excel at McMahons that was quite clean low gen hours, about 12.5k miles and they wanted about $35k for it. Helluva a deal IMO. My ideal B? No but about 50% better a price than the best deal I could make on a 2008 version. I was looking at this from the perspective of recent model changes in terms of interior materials, fit, layout, enclosed baths/isle bath solutions, etc. Go back 5 years and the comparisons are different again. There was a nice 2005 PW Luxor RD (I think it was the RD) with a few more miles and asking $50k. IT was a great unit IMO because of the cloth sofa, different foam than they're using now, better designed isle bath the the current RT isle only bath. You see what I mean.
CSG 08/02/09 02:49pm Class B - Camping Van Conversions
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