barlie
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It really would have been nice if Nissan had stated this limitation in the type of trailer that can be towed with as Titan. I only found out that I could not tow a 5th wheel without voiding my warranty when I got a copy of the Sales Talk/ Sept.2004 four monthes after I order my Titan with the intent of towing a 5th wheel. There salesman are still telling people that they can tow a 5th wheel. People are putting 5th wheels on their Titans not know that it could void their warranty. I think Nissan needs to issue a statement as to why a Titan can not tow a 5ht wheel and where people who have put on a 5th wheel stand as far as their warranty coverage. Nissan is making no attempt to make the public aware of the fact that their Titan is not recommended for towing a 5th wheel. If I had known this I would have bougth another truck.
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Zardozchalet
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Quote:It really would have been nice if Nissan had stated this limitation in the type of trailer that can be towed with as Titan. I only found out that I could not tow a 5th wheel without voiding my warranty when I got a copy of the Sales Talk/ Sept.2004 four monthes after I order my Titan with the intent of towing a 5th wheel. There salesman are still telling people that they can tow a 5th wheel. People are putting 5th wheels on their Titans not know that it could void their warranty. I think Nissan needs to issue a statement as to why a Titan can not tow a 5ht wheel and where people who have put on a 5th wheel stand as far as their warranty coverage. Nissan is making no attempt to make the public aware of the fact that their Titan is not recommended for towing a 5th wheel. If I had known this I would have bougth another truck.
Barlie
Whenever you buy a truck and a salesperson tell you something you
must always get it in writing. Trust me if you get it in writing
they will get it right and disclose properly. Verbal words of any
salesman while legally binding is effectivly legally worthless. I
agree Nissan is doing a very poor job of communicating the policy
on fifth wheels.
Zardoz
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Suv Dude
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Whew makes me glad I decided to go the HD route when it came to towing. I wonder if he could sue and give the truck back like those people who Sued VW over the Touareg's towing claims. I hope you kept the copies of those pictures that shows a Titan with a 5th wheel or gooseneck trailer. That way you have some evidence of the deception.
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the_vfox
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Wow I would never think that a salesman would shade the truth
Thats a bummer, almost like having a 5000lb paperweight 
I bought my HD because I wanted to make sure I had extra towing capacity for murphy's law.
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bluesun68
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The manual clealy states that the load capacity is only 1,500 pounds, just like most other 1/2 tons. If your buying a truck to tow, you have to check not only that but the weights of your proposed trailer. I know I poured over the specs a bunch before I bought. I never saw a 5th wheel that could be carried by a 1/2 ton. So I stopped looking for a 5th wheel as I didn't want a heavy duty truck.
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cillyone
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I looked under a Titan pickup and compared it to a 1500 Silverado and a Dodge 1500 in the parking lot at work and if anything the Titan frame material looked thicker? I know from reading Ward’s Automotive Industrial magazine that GM had to buy back several hundred of the first hydro formed framed trucks because they were damaged (bent) when tied down to rail flat cars in shipment. It seems that the hyroformed frames cannot take the same type of stress as the old “C” channel frame. The hydroformed frames are stronger to a point, but introduce some flex (twist) along with downward load and they will buckle easier. The Titan frame appears to be of the old “C” channel design with a plate welded (boxed) on the forth side. I cannot believe that this could not be up to the task of a fifth wheel hitch since the load is so spread out over such a large area. GM and Dodge both claim to have stronger and lighter (?Thinner?) frames with the advent of hydroforming. And the curb weight of all three (GM, Dodge, Titan) are real close with the Nissan being the only one with a all-aluminum engine. That weight has got to be somewhere? Plastic does not weigh that much, it must be metal in the body/frame, which brings me back to my frame observations. I just do not see the Titan frame being light, certainly not lighter than the ½ ton trucks I looked at. As for my own taste, I would not tow anything over 25’ with a ½ ton, just my .02
Why can't you put any brake controller on your Nissan? You do not need to buy a Nissan branded controller. I love my Prodigy. And as far as a fifth wheel, I sold mine and got my bed back (Yea!)and just ball hitch. Unless you dropping the trailer and re-hitching often I found out I would rather have my bed.
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blackandredwarrior
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Barlie you seem like your kinda SOL. I'm assuming you bought from Lithia or Rodeo. Former is part of a big company and the latter just sold to a big company and will probably disavow anything. Hopefully you have the literature where it shows the 5ths and goosenecks hooked up. Would be interesting to see Nissan trying to explain that one away to a judge. To me that is outright disceptive advertising.
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barlie
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We got a photocopy of the Nissan Sales Talk brochure dated Sept. 2004, in Dec 2004 when we were trying to get the Nissan Towing Guide. Get a copy from your dealer and check out the page that shows a picture of a 5th wheel and gooseneck trailer. Under each picture it states "Nissan doe not recommend towing a 5th wheel or gooseneck trailer with the Titan or Frontier."
Call Nissan Warranty Department at 800-258-7008 and ask them what their policy is regarding your warranty if you tow a 5th wheel or gooseneck. I spoke with supervisor Michelle. Ask them why and you will get several different answers ( The truck is not designed to accommodate drilling or welding in the bed area; could cause the bed to come off; the truck was not crash tested with a 5th wheel but was with a travel trailer; the truck was not engineered to support a 5th wheel hitch) but the bottom line is they can void your warranty if they determine that towing the unapproved trailer type caused a problem that would have been otherwise covered; i.e. drivetrain, brake or suspension problems. Do you think they will be on your side??? Also this information is not in the owner’s manual and the Nissan Towing Guide only talks about ball hitch towing. No pictures or information on 5th wheels. The guide does not have the "not recommended" statement either. The Nissan salesman at an RV show on Jan 16, 2005 was still telling people that they could tow a 5th wheel. We met with him at his dealership the next day and asked him to call Nissan and verify his statements. He was informed by Nissan exactly what we have stated in this forum, 5th wheel towing was not recommended and could void your warranty.
We have not stated that you cannot tow a 5th wheel with a Titan only that you cannot do so without jeopardizing your warranty.
You can call Customer Service at 800 647 7261. I spoke to Aaron at ext. 3831.
Your contacts and answers may vary, but bottom line you are betting your warranty by towing a 5th wheel.
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vapor40
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Just a general statement... any mod to your truck can cause a failure to not be covered. They will only cover things that are wrong with the truck. Not damage you cause it. That being said... we sold a Titan to a guy who had (traded in) a Tundra. He removed the hitch (5ver) and installed it on his Titan. He has no problems with this setup and has not had his warranty affected. Now, if the hitch damages the truck then the damage would not be covered. I am not sure how much weight he is carrying in the bed... it's a 25' I think.
Add the hitch and just keep the gvwr in limits...I have looked for a disclaimer stating that if a 5ver is installed it will void the warranty and cannot find anything like it in the warranty guide or owners manual.
They would have to show the gvwr was over limit or the installation damaged the truck to deny a claim.
Good luck
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barlie
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I agree with you that that should be the case. I am only letting people know what Nissan Customer Service and Nissan Warranty Department is telling me. I would really like to know if anyone is towing a 5th wheel with a Titan and within the total weight limits and having problems with their warranty. I would also like to know why the dealerships and Nissan North America are not making the "not recommened" information public so that people can make an informed decision. There is no disclaimer in the owner's manual, towing guide, or warranty guide. The only place I have seen it is in the Sept 2004 Nissan Sales Talk brochure. If yu call the Nissan Warranty Department they will tell you it is "not recommended" and could void your warranty. If you have had warranty issues with your Titan while towing a 5th wheel and have had no problems with warranty coverage, please let me know. I have seen pictures on the internet of Titans with a 5th wheel attached so I know it is being done.
The issue is Nissan is keeping this 5th wheel policy from the public.
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