cewillis
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dhamblet wrote: that is exactly why my current rig has aluminum framing.
Mine too -- but there is still a LOT of wood in the construction, in most or all cases, and you do not want that wet either.
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FarcticOx
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Mike, such a bummer. Knowing you I feel like this was to some degree out of your control. Didn't you have that area repaired or at least resealed by Lance? Seems like they bear some responsibility here.
What component actually leaked and caused the problem?
Ted
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Reddog1
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dhamblet wrote:AFter owning a wood framed camper years ago and doing rot repair that is exactly why my current rig has aluminum framing. I suspect almost all wood framed campers and trailers suffer premature rot or dry rot.
I am very partial to the molded fiberglass TC's. They have far less areas to leak, and there is nothing to delaminate from.
I have repaired/rebuilt several TC's through the years. It has been my experience, the joint around the top outside edge is more prone to leak than any other place. Unfortunately this area is the most critical.
I have not experienced laminated siding, but it would not be my first choice for siding.
Wayne
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Reddog1
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Mike Tassinari wrote:For those of you who may ask??? Why not just put it all back together as cheep as possable and dump it on some un/suspecting Dealer or Pvt Customer..I cannot in good conscience do it!!!I created this huge headake and its my responsibility to get it fixed Rite..
Mike Tassinari
You have my utmost respect for your ethics. It certainly puts a lot of creditability to any post you may make.
Wayne
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Mike Tassinari
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Hello Everyone...
Lance Cal.is not at fault in any mannor!!! Period.. To put it simply-- an Owner (Me) neglecting my duties to follow up and check the exterior Caucking.......Lance Cal. did many things to my T/C while at their repair facility,and yes before I took if off the Dealers Hands--I must have spent 2 hours going over the entire rig,To the best of my memory(it was almost 3 years ago)I could not find fault with the work of Re/cauking my T/C by them...Ok there may have been a false sence of security that what the heck the cauking is only 3 plus years old on a 6 year old T/C?????
I also took the oportunity while it was out at the Factory,to eliminate the center marker lights,as I have read reports on this fine Forum of the most likely area for water to get down inside..No the Driver Side marker light was not the source of the water intrusion as it was sealed tightly from Lance Cal..
I wish I had taken a picture cause Rick the owner flat out showed me where the water entered when I went to his facility in March..
You have that trim finish moulding that makes everything look pretty between the side wall and the Cab/Over front Filon----The cauking cracked for about 6to 8 inches in the area of the Marker Light area--By cracking I am talking about the finish cauking seam that touches the the trim moulding and the Filon Siding itself...Alowing water to penetrate underneath that trim moulding and attacking the wood framing..
Mike Tassinari
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silversand
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...basically, RVs (not specifically TCs) are fairly poorly made.
I've spent what I believe to be about $14,000 over the last 4 years in my time going over every screw and seam and tub joint and roof line in our unit over, and over, and over again, and re-caulking them. It's a never ending battle.
I am now going to remove every window frame screw, and re-caulk those, too.
Heads up: every single individual screw in the outside of your RV can be the potential cause of your $30,000 rig's demise. If you're not right on top of it every single spring, your rig would/could literally be toast. No matter who the manufacturer.
I vote for making RVs like boats. Hey, we pay $30~$250k for boats, and they seem to last so much longer than RVs do. Why not assemble them in a similar way??
Thanks Mike for illustrating this so well!
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Silver-
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sleepy
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FarcticOx wrote:Mike, such a bummer. Knowing you I feel like this was to some degree out of your control. Didn't you have that area repaired or at least resealed by Lance? Seems like they bear some responsibility here.
What component actually leaked and caused the problem?
Ted
The lance manual says to inspect and reseal all seams as needed every 6 months. The warrenty is for 2 years... while the roof is warrenteed for 12 years.
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silversand
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Quote:lance manual says to inspect and reseal all seams as needed every 6 months
The owner's manual for every RV (not just TCs) manufactured in North America should read:
"....for purposes of longevity, this model should only be used in areas of extreme aridity and low humidity and precipitation; avoid using this unit anywhere east of New Mexico or north of Colorado" !
Cheers,
S-
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traxtermax
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Powerdude wrote:Ouch...20 bucks and a couple of hours of chaulking...
Trust me, it's a lot more than a couple of hours of caulking if you do it right.
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woodhog
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Most RVs I have ever looked at seem to be poorly built, over priced and just waiting for all kinds of problems to develop.
I think it has a lot to do with the fact they are subject to a lot of jaring, bumping, twisting, hard driving water during travel in rain and snow, they just are not up to the task as far a built quality.
It just shows how important it is to have a company that will stand behind their product when you make your purchase and if it is used I dont know how you could ever really know what the internal shape of your TC was without tearing it apart.
These things are falling apart, leaking, delaminating and most only get used a few weeks per year.
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