Bill Hamilton
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bluestek wrote:...The I Pod restricted me on what I could download and where I could put it. Itunes erased all of my music because I tryed to move something from my friends MP3 player that was not on my Ipod list. Never an Ipod for me again! I will control what music I can get and where from!
I have never seen or heard of anything like this with an iPod. Can you elaborate on your problems and how the iPod "restricted" you on what you could download?
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I can't help but ask:
tatest wrote:You can use ITunes to convert MP3s to the Apple format used by IPod.
What is this Apple format to which you refer?
bluestek wrote:DRM bad compression!
What is the "DRM bad compression"?
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bluestek wrote:I have a Zune. Love it! No ties to Apple or the DRM bad compression! The music I want (Old Blues and Jazz) is not avaible on ITunes. I get it from my CDs or from Yahoo or Amazon for $1.99. The I Pod restricted me on what I could download and where I could put it. Itunes erased all of my music because I tryed to move something from my friends MP3 player that was not on my Ipod list. Never an Ipod for me again! I will control what music I can get and where from!
iPod threads are always full of myths and user error.
DRM is NOT COMPRESSION. You are confused. Apple uses AAC for it's primary compression. It is also know as MP4 , AAC is MP3 replacement and is a much better format. BTW, Zune supports AAC/MP4. AAC is OPEN SOURCE, the myth repeated here is that it's Apple's format. Apple just adopted the OPEN SOURCE format well before many others, as they did with Firewire.
The iPod does no such thing as restrict you to where you want to put it. The reason you have all your music going into itune from other places is because of user error and you did not set the prefs the way you want it.
The second "problem" you experienced was again user error and you had your itunes to sync automatically. So , when it tried to SYNC with your friends ipod it was trying to do as it was told and sync automatically, You also ignored the WARNING it put up asking you if you want to erase and sync the ipod.
All you had to do is set your ipod to sync manually and you can hook up any ipod with no ill effects.
Another myth is that you can only have on library on one computer, yet another myth.
In the current music battle Apple vs. Big record companies. Apple want to keep pricing at .99, big record wants to charge up to $2 for a single. Think about that every time you buy a song from Amazon it that old MP3 format. You are just contributing to higher prices in the future.
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Bill Hamilton wrote:bluestek wrote:...The I Pod restricted me on what I could download and where I could put it. Itunes erased all of my music because I tryed to move something from my friends MP3 player that was not on my Ipod list. Never an Ipod for me again! I will control what music I can get and where from!
I have never seen or heard of anything like this with an iPod. Can you elaborate on your problems and how the iPod "restricted" you on what you could download? Nor have I. I have 5 iPods of various generations all being served by one iTunes app and have never had any issues like this.
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pulsar wrote:I can't help but ask:
tatest wrote:You can use ITunes to convert MP3s to the Apple format used by IPod.
What is this Apple format to which you refer?
Tom
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bluestek wrote:I have a Zune. Love it! No ties to Apple or the DRM bad compression!
As others have said, DRM and compression are DIFFERENT! iTunes PLUS content on the iTunes store use 192bps encoding and AAC compression to get some of the highest quality available online.
bluestek wrote: I get it from my CDs or from Yahoo or Amazon for $1.99.
Guess what? You can do the SAME THING with an iPod, just rip the CD's in iTunes, iTunes fills in all of the artist, album, and track info for you and adds the songs to your library. You can even have it automatically sync music to your iPod every time you connect to get the most recently "ripped" tunes.
bluestek wrote:Itunes erased all of my music because I tryed to move something from my friends MP3 player that was not on my Ipod list.
I have been using iTunes for a while and used to even strip off the DRM so I could share songs with friends. I used iTunes to do all of the sharing, just had to remove DRM so it would copy over. I have never had iTunes erase anything as retribution, and it asks you 3 times before permanently deleting anything. 1 to make sure you want to remove it from iTunes, and 2x to make sure you want to delete the physical file.
creeper wrote:Apple just adopted the OPEN SOURCE format well before many others, as they did with Firewire.
While you're right about AAC, you're wrong about Firewire. Apple actually invented Firewire and started the work on it just as Intel started USB. Apple funded the IEEE 1394 working group to get it finished and standardized but they charged a royalty for the Firewire name. That is why Sony calls it i.Link and most people call it IEEE1394.
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tatest wrote:pulsar wrote:I can't help but ask:
tatest wrote:You can use ITunes to convert MP3s to the Apple format used by IPod.
What is this Apple format to which you refer?
Tom
AAC
Like I said AAC is NOT an Apple format. Apple's format is Apple lossless and AIFF.
AAC is open source.
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joshjack wrote:
creeper wrote:Apple just adopted the OPEN SOURCE format well before many others, as they did with Firewire.
While you're right about AAC, you're wrong about Firewire. Apple actually invented Firewire and started the work on it just as Intel started USB. Apple funded the IEEE 1394 working group to get it finished and standardized but they charged a royalty for the Firewire name. That is why Sony calls it i.Link and most people call it IEEE1394.
J
I'm well aware that Apple invented Firewire. What I was saying or at least I thought what I was saying was that Apple adopted Firewire and offered it standard well before anyone else did.
To this day you can find computers that don't come with a firewire interface, even though it's an industry standard.
The point was that Apple is offering things considered industry standard well before others and are often/ no always on the leading edge of technology.
AAC is also an industry standard, yet many are only now just supporting it and some not at all. Apple was so far ahead of the big players that many have the misconception that AAC is actually Apple's format, a misconception that is repeated here very often.
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creeper wrote:
I'm well aware that Apple invented Firewire. What I was saying or at least I thought what I was saying was that Apple adopted Firewire and offered it standard well before anyone else did.
To this day you can find computers that don't come with a firewire interface, even though it's an industry standard.
The point was that Apple is offering things considered industry standard well before others and are often/ no always on the leading edge of technology.
AAC is also an industry standard, yet many are only now just supporting it and some not at all. Apple was so far ahead of the big players that many have the misconception that AAC is actually Apple's format, a misconception that is repeated here very often.
My bad - now I agree with you! 
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We use an IPOD Shuffle and IPOD Touch on same music Library..
Also if you mistakenly erase files or so you think, I found its NOT deleted.. I-Tunes drops the folder. Just click file, add folder to library and browse back to the folder containing all your music and they come right back..
My daughter synching her Shuffle has wiped out my library more than once and in each instance I simply added the folder back. I'd be very upset if Apple did delete my paid for music so think in the later versions of I-Tunes they just broke the association to the folders holding your music which leaves I-Tunes empty. Adding it back returns the music. At least that my experience.. 
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