magicbus
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silversand wrote:Quote:Most hackers won't bother because there are too many open wifi systems.
...yep...why would the average hacker/white-collar criminal ever want to attempt to decipher someone's even weakly encrypted wifi or https communications?
Wouldn't it be easier to let the fly go to the honey (i.e. rootkits disguised as a freeware; a free open wifi Venus fly-trap)?
Or better yet - while in a campground put up an access point named the same name as the campground and ask for a credit card "just to verify you are registered". Probably catch a lot of "flies" that way!
Sometimes people just worry too much.
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KeninAZ
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Briteskys wrote:jharrelson wrote:
as for me... I will stick to the US Mail for all things requiring my personal information..
Atta boy John. The mail IS safe.. as long as the stagecoach doesn't get robbed or the horse gets sick. 
But then again he does not realize how many mail theft happen every day in this country either.
And here in AZ if you have a rural route box for mail delivery you area a number 1 candidate for ID theft with the illegals.
Those old Navy guys have nothing better to do than worry about trivial stuff. 
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JoshJack got it exactly right.
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thiswebs4u
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apr67 wrote:Public Key/Private Key encryption, as seen in SSL (HTTPS web pages) is pretty secure for what most humans do. We don't need to protect our data forever, we just need to protect it until it is no longer useful. For most things that is about a year, ie you do change all your important passwords at least once a year, right?
The biggest issue with the internet (be it wireless or wired) is the man in the middle attack. Several methods exist to do this but the easy way to think about it is, SSL is only as good as the site you use it to connect to. If I make a site and convince your computer to talk to me to get anything you need, and give you an encrypted connection, you think you are doing well. The reality is, when you type your password in for your bank, I capture the password and then pass it through. Then I present the banks output back to you. You don't even know I'm there.
But to somehow assume that the US mail is secure is quite funny.
Yea, that is funny, did you have a dream last night. How did you get the banks CA?
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Earl E
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Burp wrote:Before spreading doom and gloom, please provide an example where encrypted WiFi has been compromised.
I am also waiting for an answer. I dont agree or disagree with the security as I know nothing about that stuff. I do know I want facts and statistics to back up my decisions. So please site a study that shows how many hackers have gotten this info via WIFI. Or a study that shows the percentage of thefts from personal WIFI, HTTP, mail, etc. Then I will act accordingly. Thanks.
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magicbus
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thiswebs4u wrote:apr67 wrote:...The reality is, when you type your password in for your bank, I capture the password and then pass it through. Then I present the banks output back to you. You don't even know I'm there.
Yea, that is funny, did you have a dream last night. How did you get the banks CA?
If he knows what a CA is! BofA changed their web page and forgot to change their CA last year and it stopped me cold. Then the phone started ringing as friends who do online banking called me to ask what was happening. The "man in the middle" relies on people really trying to lose their money!
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