sc3283
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I need more axle clearance as you can see from pics. Trailer bone stock, not overloaded, has 7000lb axles. Weighs 10080 last 2 trips used. Axles hitting fresh water tank, outer frame rails, fresh water drain plumbing. Axle swap to bottom of the spring will yield a 6" addition. 3" would be ideal, 6" is extreme for appearance, and ease of getting in and out, plus I'm not sure rear ramp door will open that much further. Also while correcting this mistake..I will be instaling Michelin 16" tires/wheels and getting the chinese cheapy 15" off. Any ideas??
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Rvndave
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I never thought you would have to check clearances. Has the tank fallen?
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mkirsch
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If it's hitting the frame too, the tank is where it's supposed to be.
About the only option you have of getting a 3" lift is with different springs. Either more curved springs with the axles on top, or flatter springs with the axles on the bottom.
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mapguy
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Does your trailer have two sets of spring eye/equalizer holes -if it does do an axle flip and use the upper set of spring eye/equalizer holes. This will net about 4.5 inches of lift.
Really looks like the springs are sacked out from being overloaded. New springs will get the original ride height back but if you are overloaded the symptom will return.
Have you had the trailer across the scale when fully loaded?
I would check your spring eye and equalizer bushing while it is apart -bet they are pretty well worn or gone..
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carringb
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This is what my FSW 3200 +2 looked liked. It had the factory spring-over setup (aka "flipped axles"). Another 6" height is not a bad look. The ramp was steep however, so for sleds and even a minivan, I would have a take a good running start to make it up the ramp.
If you really think that's too much, then use a Metabo cutting disc and cut the spring schackles from the frame, and weld in some 2" square (1/4" wall) tubing between the frame and shackles.
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sc3283
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trailer loaded with 1 snowmobile, 2 minibikes and 2 peoples worth of food and clothing....10080lbs....trailer has 6000 axles, trailer has less than 5000 miles use, water tank has not dropped, even though the rectangular box tubing that was used is not strong enough (will deal with that another time). I have to make this thing usable. The spring EQ is marked "China" would this thing possibley have Chinese springs too? That is the ONLY way I could see the springs to be sagged out. I have hauled drag car trailers all over the country without ever ANY issues of axles hitting the frame or springs sagging out.
I talked with Hayes, they said the Id # on my springs are theirs and made in Texas and do have a 3000lb load capacity ea. Eye to eye dimesnion is 21 1/4" unloaded. Mine measure 27 1/2" with trailer empty but loaded.
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mkirsch
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That's way too much stretch, and the reason for your problems... The springs have flattened out for some reason. Either they're defective, you've unwittingly overloaded (Is 10,800 an actual scale weight, or just your guess???), or you do a lot of driving on extremely rough roads at 10,800#.
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BurbMan
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Food for thought here....our 2008 Terry was built on a Lippert frame, and first trip out this year had stuff flying all over the inside of the trailer. Started making some calls and wound up talking to engineering at Lippert, and discovered that they installed the wrong springs on the trailer. It had 5200 lb axles and 3000 lb springs, making the ride unbearably stiff.
Not sure who builds the frames and chassis for WW, but it's possible that your TT was built with the wrong springs, they are sagging because they are underrated.
The problem I ran into was that there are NO markings whasoever on the springs that designate the weight rating. Lippert had me measure the thickness of the spring pack (4 leaves), with the correct 2600 lb spring mkeasuring 1 1/2" and the incorrect 3000 lb spring measuring 1 9/16". Not much of a difference, and impossible to measure without a good set of outside calipers.
May be something you want to look into.
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BruceStarkey
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You would be wasting your time re-setting your axles to the underside of those spring sets as I would bet they would simply bend further and become inverted. You really need to get to an experienced spring shop and let someone that knows what they're looking at take a look and advise you. While a lot of us have experience related to the RV stuff, I suspect you are a victim of the traditional RV mafg's approach to attempting to give the coach (until out of warranty) and all of it's components a soft ride: UNDER SPRINGING! Your 7,000lb axles should be adequate but those spring packs certainly aren't.
My advice would be to make sure your replacement spring sets are stong enough and also of correct length, install a "wet" shackle set up, invest in something like the Trailair "Equa-Flex" equalizer beam to further cushion the shock load of weight transfer from axle to axle, do not re-use the standard 1/2" - "U" bolts but opt for the 9/16" ones instead and use a torque wrench to tighten their nuts as you don't want to "crush" the axle tubes.
You may find when undoing those u-bolts and dropping the clamping plate away that your spring packs are actually fractured at their locating center hole and you may have narrowly avoided the problem of one tire moving into the other one from a completely broken spring pack allowing one axle to move.
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It may very well have weak springs! but that looks like a very lousy setup to begin with.
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