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Doug4.7 wrote: ~DJ~ wrote: Cop, cab driver, prosecutor, prison guard, crook? Nope. He is working on the case, however.
Is this case imported or domestic?
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I'm with the poster who suggested 'shrink'. He/she is the expert witness who will testify that bad guy wasn't loved by mommy/daddy and resorted to this behavior out of a need for attention (hence the use of own cell phone/home). He is not responsible for his actions, needs some counseling and will be back out on the street ripping off other folks in a couple months. Am I getting close?
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Cab co. owner?
Tax collector?
Mechanic for the cab co.?
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Doug4.7

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Mandrake wrote: ....shrink.... You got it. The issue my friend is working on is the perp's sanity. In general, someone can't be found guilty of a crime if they have no sense of right & wrong. I know those in the field will cringe at my over simplification, but that more or less covers it. The fact that the guy made no attempt to cover his crime (even calmly answered the door when the police arrived).
The "insanity defense" is often abused, and that is where my friend comes in. He gets to be an "expert witness".
Just to make people understand, this friend of mine or the case may or may not be in Alabama. I think I can say it is in the US without revealing too much.
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Doug4.7

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brauneyz wrote: I'm with the poster who suggested 'shrink'. He/she is the expert witness who will testify that bad guy wasn't loved by mommy/daddy and resorted to this behavior out of a need for attention (hence the use of own cell phone/home). He is not responsible for his actions, needs some counseling and will be back out on the street ripping off other folks in a couple months. It is not that simple. The bolded part of your post goes to the core of the issue. Even if he turns out to "qualify", that does not mean he will be back on the street. The idea being if he does not know right from wrong, then he is a danger to himself and others.
ETA: There was a case some years ago where the person hit another person with a brick. It became obvious that the person did not consider that sort of stuff 'wrong'. His attitude was, "If you are in my way, I will hit you with a brick (or whatever was available)". That person is still in an institution (as far as I know) and has to be watched very closely because he had no qualms about killing someone in his way. He put no more thought to that sort of stuff than we would about shooing a fly away from our face.
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Doug4.7 wrote: brauneyz wrote: I'm with the poster who suggested 'shrink'. He/she is the expert witness who will testify that bad guy wasn't loved by mommy/daddy and resorted to this behavior out of a need for attention (hence the use of own cell phone/home). He is not responsible for his actions, needs some counseling and will be back out on the street ripping off other folks in a couple months. It is not that simple. The bolded part of your post goes to the core of the issue. Even if he turns out to "qualify", that does not mean he will be back on the street. The idea being if he does not know right from wrong, then he is a danger to himself and others.
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Doug4.7

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brauneyz wrote: Great, I win and society loses. I'm outta here!  Not really. The guy is in jail. He not going to go free (unless the prosecution really screws things up) anytime soon. My friend's work will just help determine if the guy goes to a regular jail or to an "institution". All my friend does is supply "expert testimony". It is up to the judge (jury?) to decide where the guy goes. In other words, society decides his fate.
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True Story: A man comes into a restaurant ( Big Boy, West Grand Bvld, Detroit) and robbs the place.. As he's leaving, money in bag in hand, two more come in, see him with the money, shoot him and drop their gun (Registered to them at their house) taking his in exchange, along with the money..... They were dividing up the "loot" when the police arrived to invite them to dinner for the next 20 to life.
Another establishment, just down the road, Sign on door "Closed, private party", a man walks in and starts waving his gun around "All you people, you don't wanna die be getting out your valuables" At least half the people there proceeded to do just that.
Question: What is the most valuable object a police officer carries?
Answer: his gun of course, way more expensive than his watch or his ring and likely worth more than his wallet.
It was a retirement party for a police officer,, Over half the people there were cops.
Imagine the arrest report....
What happened: (See the description of the crime above) one paragrah
Arresting officer "See attachment"
The entire report is 1/2 inch thick with line after line of arresting officer
Yet another, this one I'm not so sure about
A "Business man" traveling down the road sees a roadside diner with a bunch of Harley Davison Motor Cycles out front.. .Knowing that many biker gangs like his products he decides to see if he can make a sale (Hey, he moved all his product so I guess he did good right... Read on) He confronted one of the BLUE leather clad bikers and offered his wares... Said biker convinced him to climb on a table and make his offer to all.....
What bikeers wear BLUE leather?
The same kind that wear BLUE uniforms on the job.. Yup, The police
I have a business card for the club president somewhere, Never met him, but I've got his card.
And from Australia (recently in the news) There is a "Sporting club" (Bar & Grill with class) where a couple of wanna-be Ninja's tried to rob the place.
Problem is that their membership includes the local motorcycle club
Imagine the look on the "ninja's" faces when over a dozen big, leather clad, Motorcycle types came charging
One was quickly captured, The other almost got away, However when the police arrived his name was BENCH with the President of the biker's club sitting on him.
Alas, he's now an UP-Standing citizen.. UP Standing before another bench saying "yes Your Honor" and "No Your Honor"
Nothin adds excitment like something that is none of your business
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Mandrake wrote: ....a few folks I used to know did this.......
They brought certain products into the states that were frowned on by the authorities. at the time, customs inspectors and certain airport people made very little money. The folks would pick out one who looked approachable, after observing for a while, ofeer that person 3 months salary to let a certain individual through without searching them. Half now, half after successful entry.
The first time through, the individual would be clean, just to test the inspector. If all went well, the guy got his money, the next day the real individual would come through. The inspector got more money. Once a month, the individual would come through, the the product entered, all was well. I cannot recall them ever being stopped. this went on for 3 or 4 years.
I often wondered how Coors beer (a non-union, unpasteurized product) made it through Oregon......he he he
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My all-time favorite is a story that was written up several years ago by Charles Osgood of CBS News.
It dealt with an individual who went into a Bank of America branch in San Francisco and wrote a hold up note on a deposit slip. Noticing the long lines at the teller windows, he then got nervous and decided to leave.
He walked across the street to a Wells Fargo branch and presented the note to the teller. Noticing several misspellings, including "stikup" and "munny," she decided that he wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree. So she said that she could not accept the note because she was a Wells Fargo teller and the note was written on a Bank of America deposit slip. He could re-write the note on a Wells Fargo form, or he could take the note to the Bank of America across the street.
That's where the cops caught him, standing with his note in the long line that he had been right to worry about in the first place.
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