Horseplay
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Beaverdance,
Many don't want a taxable income. They volunteer and get "paid" with their site, but it isn't recognized as "work". There are different ways of looking at any of these. I think it is great to volunteer as long as it isn't bumping out a paid position. It does happen. Why have the overhead of bennys, paperwork, etc when we can get it for free?
Most private places work the same way.... barter system...a trading of goods of no tax value. Almost the same as working off the books, but don't say that, it makes people mad 
Often the person is now a subcontractor....so there is often a contract...much easier to hide the money if no one is claiming it. No different than migrant or illegal workers. Problem with that is if push came to shove, in some states (NC is one) if it smells like a employee, it can be! So... people need to be careful tax wise.
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DianneOK
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beaverdance...in reviewing your previous posts to this forum, I found the following:
beaverdance wrote:>>>I'm 50 years old. I have 1.7 million in assets. I was a small businessman for almost thirty years, and my father before me for longer than that. I have a degree in economics, and am a CPA and a licensed tax preparer. I also have an IQ of 190 (since you wanted to know how I became "so brilliant"; apparently, I always have been ).
You claim to be worth 1.7 million $$$ and you need to workcamp to meet basic expenses 
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beaverdance
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Horsedoc wrote:I don't believe that workcampers try to live on just the wages they are paid. We did some pretty good planning years ago and now it is paying off when we want to go some place and stay for a few weeks or months. The costs of just a place to park for that long would stop us from doing that (I try to be pretty close with the budget) so we try to find a hosting job. That way we get to stay there for no real exchange of money. If I priced my work at a CG from what I am used to making, the CG would never even look twice at us - they could not afford us.
Part of the 'package' - for want of a better word - is the area you stay in. Florida for the snowbird types for example. We like cool weather and mountains, so we look for the area we want to visit first, then at someway to stay there at a minimum cash flow.
The other side of all this is that it is fun to do and new things happen every day.
So what is is worth to look up and see a snow covered mountain as you sit outside and have morning coffee? Or to be able to take a short drive and see grazing buffalo and elk or have a deer walk through your campsite? Or have a get-together occasionally with people who have the same interests and ideals?
It is not just the amount written in the dollar amount space, all the other things come into the picture as well.
Trying to put a dollar figure on every thing and every minute will just make you disgusted and mad. If you cannot understand this, then you probably will not do well workcamping either.
What you and other posters are overlooking is that the snow-covered mountains, deer, etc. are not things that are provided by your employer, so "what they are worth" is irrelevant in calculating what consitutes fair compensation. Would you consider it fair for emplyers to pay smaller wages in communities that had clean air and/or water? Or in places that had lots of nice, friendly people? And yes, indeedy, I'd LOOOOOOVE to set aside all those crass considerations of filthy money, but as long as my medical and RV insurance insist putting "a dollar value on every thing", as long as I have to pay money to buy food (rather than paying with, say, a dazzling smile), and until such time as gas stations give me a 50% discount because I drive such a cool car and I'm such a neato guy, I'm afraid I will have to remain a money-grubbing capitalist.
Wanting to get paid federal minimum wage is not "trying to put a dollar value on everything". It's wanting to sell my labor for at least the same price unskilled, unschooled, inexperienced workers get. I'm NOT asking for $30/hr--which is what I'M used to making--but merely $7-8/hr, which is not a lot to ask, even WITH mountains and elk "thrown in".
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firedude
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Point taken and this topic is now closed.
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