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American Made
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Thunderbolt wrote:Ron3rd wrote:MadMav wrote:And another thing....you paid $37,000 for the Tundra!!!!!! Good God you got taken. I paid $34.5K for my truck and it's 5 times the truck your rig is. Some people have more money than brains...I swear.
Mav
I believe that was in Canada, not the U.S.
His post says he bought it south of the border for $37,000 US and imported back to Canada. He jumps back and forth so it is hard to tell because He says the GMC would be 65K in Canadian and 71K in us which isn't right. In either case a GMC is far cheeper than 65K in the US and if he paid $37,000 US for a Tundra it was to much. That is closer to loaded Duramax crew cab in this day and age.
I don't think my post is that confusing. I bought the loaded, Limited Tundra in the US. The cost of that in US $ was 37, which was a bit less than 36 at the time (October 2007). No other companies would sell a new vehicle to a Canadian, because with our dollar being worth $1.10 at the time Canadians were flocking south of the border in search of deals. A loaded GMC was $65,000. At that time, it was over 70K in US dollars.
I looked at the 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton offerings from the big three. I briefly looked at the Titan as well. The comparable 3/4 Ton GMC Duramax was $65 Canadian. Yes, it would have been a more capable tow vehicle, although less useful as a day to day driver, off road vehicle, and family vehicle in my opinion. I've driven trucks before: the Duramax GMC reminds you that it's a truck. Offroad, it is heavy, low undercarriage, and not very well articulated. The Tundra met my needs better at 1/2 the cost.
Maybe for your purposes, you might think that a 3/4 ton is 5 X better than a Tundra. Would that be in towing capacity, payload, or maybe something more subjective like looks or expected durability?
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American Made
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Keith99RS wrote:Quote:Jeez, life is short enough as it is, we don't have to wander around worrying that the cops are going to pull us over because we are towing 10,000 lbs behind a vehicle only rated to tow 9,500!
500lbs over is a whole lot different than the almost 2,000lbs you were guesstimating. Can you see why people may have jumped on you?
500-600 over payload rating.
1,500-2,000 over towing rating.
Reread the posts. This is what I've said from first to last.
And yes, I see very well why people jumped all over that. It wasn't a Ford, Dodge, or GMC, and my mileage was unbelievable, and there's no way a Toyota could safely tow that, and we're all gonna die and the axle is going to snap or maybe 5 studs aren't strong enough or the brakes won't take it or the engine and transmission is going to burn up or the rear diff. is too high or too low or it will never tow 12 K in overdrive and anyway who is this newbie troll in an IMPORT telling us how to tow a trailer? I understand it very well.
If Toyota comes up with a 3/4 ton offering in the next few years, perhaps with a heavier duty rear axle, overload springs, maybe a stiffer frame (not sure if that is essential, but for the sake of argument. . .) I would seriously look at it. I will look at the big three, too, if they're still around.
When the time comes to replace this vehicle (next week, by the estimation of some of the responses to my post, but anyway) in 5-7 years, I will look at everything out there. If vehicles are no different then, than they are right now, I'll predict another Tundra 1/2 ton is in my future.
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Thunderbolt
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American Made wrote:Thunderbolt wrote:Ron3rd wrote:MadMav wrote:And another thing....you paid $37,000 for the Tundra!!!!!! Good God you got taken. I paid $34.5K for my truck and it's 5 times the truck your rig is. Some people have more money than brains...I swear.
Mav
I believe that was in Canada, not the U.S.
His post says he bought it south of the border for $37,000 US and imported back to Canada. He jumps back and forth so it is hard to tell because He says the GMC would be 65K in Canadian and 71K in us which isn't right. In either case a GMC is far cheeper than 65K in the US and if he paid $37,000 US for a Tundra it was to much. That is closer to loaded Duramax crew cab in this day and age.
I don't think my post is that confusing. I bought the loaded, Limited Tundra in the US. The cost of that in US $ was 37, which was a bit less than 36 at the time (October 2007). No other companies would sell a new vehicle to a Canadian, because with our dollar being worth $1.10 at the time Canadians were flocking south of the border in search of deals. A loaded GMC was $65,000. At that time, it was over 70K in US dollars.
I looked at the 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton offerings from the big three. I briefly looked at the Titan as well. The comparable 3/4 Ton GMC Duramax was $65 Canadian. Yes, it would have been a more capable tow vehicle, although less useful as a day to day driver, off road vehicle, and family vehicle in my opinion. I've driven trucks before: the Duramax GMC reminds you that it's a truck. Offroad, it is heavy, low undercarriage, and not very well articulated. The Tundra met my needs better at 1/2 the cost.
Maybe for your purposes, you might think that a 3/4 ton is 5 X better than a Tundra. Would that be in towing capacity, payload, or maybe something more subjective like looks or expected durability?
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to argue or anything. I never thought about the fact that they may not want to sell to a Canadian customer. I do know that I would not have to pay anywhere near $45K for a very well equipped 2500HD around here.
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I'm sorry American Made, but saying a US auto company that is in financial trouble does not want to sell to you is the biggest load of******I have seen in this post. You're back tracking your thought processes because you know you have bit off more than you can chew in this post.....and with your TV/Fiver setup.
Listen, I'm a good fellow. I'll sit down and have a drink with any and all of you guys. I'll even listen to the foreign car retoric that some of you spill. I'll even listen to the stories about this setup being safe or what not. But I will, in as polite a way as I can, tell you that you are ignorant, unsafe and if the situation requires it, I will tell you that you are just plain stupid. I think the majority of folks in this post are leaning towards the later in this situation. I've done plenty of "stupid" stuff in my life, and it required a better/smarter person to pull my head out of my butt. We're trying to help you with yours. 
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American Made wrote:I am not a troll.
Whew. Thanks for clearing that up.
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MadMav wrote:I'm sorry American Made, but saying a US auto company that is in financial trouble does not want to sell to you is the biggest load of******I have seen in this post. You're back tracking your thought processes because you know you have bit off more than you can chew in this post.....and with your TV/Fiver setup.
Listen, I'm a good fellow. I'll sit down and have a drink with any and all of you guys. I'll even listen to the foreign car retoric that some of you spill. I'll even listen to the stories about this setup being safe or what not. But I will, in as polite a way as I can, tell you that you are ignorant, unsafe and if the situation requires it, I will tell you that you are just plain stupid. I think the majority of folks in this post are leaning towards the later in this situation. I've done plenty of "stupid" stuff in my life, and it required a better/smarter person to pull my head out of my butt. We're trying to help you with yours.
Mav
Firstly, I will assure you that I wouldn't try to haul your camper with my Tundra. Mine, however, I believe is near enough my rated capacities for my comfort level. I do appreciate all the help however in removing my head from my butt. At present, my head is comfortable where it's at.
Perhaps, if you don't choose to believe what I'm writing, you can call your local GMC dealer and ask if they'll sell a truck to someone living in Canada, for direct export. What they will tell you is you should go to a Canadian dealer, that they will not honor any rebates, that your warranty will not be honored if you are living outside of the US, and they will double-charge your tax and registration costs, both in the US where you buy the truck, and then in Canada when you want to register.
Toyota did not do this. They sold tax- and registration-free, with a 31 day tag, gave me $4,000 off the $42,000.00 list price, they threw in some extras like running boards, etc., and the warranty is valid regardless where in North America I live and drive. I believe Subaru also did not. Dodge, Ford, GMC, Honda, and the european makers do (or did) have non-export clauses on purchase of vehicles. That accounts for a significant difference in cost. You may call bull**** at your peril, because at no place have I said anything other than the truth. You may not like it, but facts are facts. Not like opinions, like "if you overload your truck, the axle will snap in half" and similar opinions, unsubstantiated by ANY demonstrable facts.
In this thread, what I've seen is opinion over and over, and very little factual evidence to say that towing 12 K with a truck rated for 10,300 K will result in some disaster down the road, nor that 2,200 or thereabouts payload in a vehicle rated for 1,530 will result in sudden catastrophic wheel bearing failure with the result that the wheel will fly off into the ditch.
I guess I asked for opinions, and you know what they say about opinions, they're like ***holes, everyone has one.
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Fast Mopar wrote:American Made wrote:I am not a troll.
Whew. Thanks for clearing that up.
Well, you're welcome! I know you really wanted some reassurance. Cheers. 
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Keith99RS
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Quote:As for pensions and benefits, I suggest you investigate all levels of government. I believe that they have these types of "dumb" legacy costs that will continue to force tax payers to also pay!
While you may think the Government is a business, it is not. It runs off taxes, not profits. Biggest difference is that the Government does not need to sell anything to cover it's benefits. Business has to make profit by selling something via demand. If demand drops it means profit drops which means available money to pay salaries, pensions and healthcare drops. Suddenly they are stuck payng out pensions and healthcare to far more people than they currently employ and cannot lay off or shed to return to profitability. Eventually if there is no upturn, the company folds and all are SOL.
That being said there are most certainly legacy costs involved with the Government that could use trimming. One being what our elected officials and representitives get for pay and benefits. They are getting better pay and benefits than our military men and women for doing what exactly? However bringing the Government into this was not my point. It was referring to the Big 3's business practices.
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American Made wrote:
Great trip, and I'm very happy with this truck
some people are just easy to please
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OMG this is way too funny!
BTW glad to see someone else is smart enough to understand that EVERY CAR COMPANY IS GETTING HANDS OUTS FROM THEIR HOME COUNTRY!!!
Difference is here in America some clowns think it's wrong because I make more money then they do. Last I checked America was free right?
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