tomhole
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NC Hauler wrote:What they DON'T do is add any more weight carrying capacity to a vehicle and they tell you that right on their product.
Didn't say they did.
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Keith99RS wrote:The bag is preventing the spring from compressing, not acting as suspension.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suspension
suspension definiton 4 -
the system of devices (as springs) supporting the upper part of a vehicle on the axles
devices = springs + air bags working together
Quote:The spring rate of the leaf pack is unchanged.
Did anyone ever make that claim? The ride-rites are HELPER springs. They don't modify the existing springs, they HELP them. They change the spring rate of the suspension (again springs + air bags), not the stock leaf pack (springs).
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NC Hauler
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tomhole, I know you didn't make that claim, nor did I say that you did.
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I think it's about 7 people now against keith andNC and they are still changing statements to try and make themselves sound right. no can do any more.
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NC Hauler
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cwit, whose changing statements, where have I changed a statement on anything that I've stated, ie, saying something didn't do something a certain way, or this was worng and then I said,,Oh, I was wrong, you can do it this way, or "oh, I was wrong, this is right?? I'm not keeping count of anyone against anyone. I wouldn't care if it 10 or 100 against me, right is right and wrong is wrong and it "ALL BOILS DOWN TO", at least as far as "I'M" concerned, is it ok to tow 1,000# over your trucks GVWR, I say no, does airbags help you carry more weight, my answer is no, adding tires or wheels will help add enough to your vehicle to tow "grossly overloaded", my answer was no...whether I'm right or not, in your eyes or not, matters not to me. As I've stated several times in here we'll continue to disagree on this subject, I think it's foolish and reckless to put yourself, a family member or some innocent driver on the road at risk for a possible accident and possible injury because someone is BLATENTLY towing well over their trucks capabilities, and bragging about it. I've not backed down from any of that, nor will I. have a good day.
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tomhole
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NC Hauler wrote:tomhole, I know you didn't make that claim, nor did I say that you did.
Roger that.
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Redoildoctor, thank you for your much thought out "value added" input. Nothing like a little humor whether it's meant to hurt someone
or not....I guess........
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Quote:That's just wrong. My air bags are at 5 psi with nothing in the truck. After I hook up the trailer, they are at 22 psi. I added nor released any air. Sorry, you are dead wrong on this particular aspect of your arguement.
I cannot explain why tire pressures don't change with load.
I wish you guys could start "discussing" this.
I would really like to know.
Forget it. Found it.
Quote:Importance of Proper Tire Inflation Pressure
A tire is a pneumatic system, which supports a vehicle’s load. It does this by using a compressed gas (usually air) inside to create tension in the carcass plies. It’s important to realize that a tire carcass has a high-tension strength, but has little or no compression strength. It’s the air pressure that creates tension in the carcass and allows the tire to function as a load-carrying device.
That's why inflation is so important. In an inflated, but unloaded tire, the cords pull equally on the bead wire all around the tire. When a tire is loaded, the tension in the cords between the rim and the ground is balanced or relieved. The tension in other cords is not changed. Therefore, the cords opposite the ground pull upwards on the bead. This is the mechanism that transmits the pressure from the ground to the rim.
In addition, a tire must transmit handling (acceleration, braking, cornering) to the road. Cornering forces are transmitted to the rim in a similar manner to load. Acceleration and braking forces rely on the friction between the rim and the bead. Inflation pressure also supplies the clamping force, which creates friction.A tire also acts as a spring between the rim and the road. This spring characteristic is very important to the vehicle’s ride. Too high an inflation pressure causes the tire to transmit shock loads to the suspension and reduces a tire's ability to withstand road impacts. Too low an inflation pressure reduces a tire's ability to support the vehicle's load and transmit cornering, braking and acceleration forces.
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NC Hauler
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Good info Beaker
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