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Rick Y

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Hudson69 wrote:

Wildcat63 wrote:

Hudson69 wrote:

Tear it up and ignore it.

The city is all bark and no bite.


This would be bad advice to follow. Depending on the city they may cite you and you have to appear in court and some cities may well send a tow truck and remove the offending vehicle at your expense if you continually ignore their letters and don't take steps to take care of the problem. Same as if you didn't mow your lawn. Eventually most cities would send a work crew and mow it then bill the property taxes a very high rate.

Best to try working with them, they very well may give you more time to take care of the issue than the time frame originally stated..



Let them trespass and tow it. Then you have a legal case to sue them.

The city works on intimidation. The people who have fought the city always win, its the ones who give in that tell you that you cant beat the city.

They can bill you what ever they want, they wont be able to collect.
During the course of approximately 20 years with my city I, and the city, was sued 11 times by citizens who felt that my destruction of their property (I was in charge of property seized by the city police) was unlawful. We won 10 of those 11 times. The 11th time was settled prior to court and, according to the city attorney working the case, was settled favorably to the citizen only because it turned out his uncle was a bigwig with the county and the city preferred to spend a little money rather than creating a problem by antagonizing the uncle. Therefore I would be reluctant to tell people that if you fight the city you will always win. 'Tain't necessarily so!


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Goldencrazy wrote:

Put the camper in the garage and car in driveway.


camper = ~21 feet from hitch to spare tire. Garage = 18 feet of useable space. :-(

I'm taking it to a friend's property and will revisit building out a fence and gate, though it will be very tight.


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Hi there, Buzzardcheater--we also live in Austin, in the SW part of town. We store our bass boat (ouch $$$$$)because it will not fit in our garage. We have been cited twice. Apparently, someone saw it when we had the boat home overnight before or after we used it. (BTW-you can park your boat or RV on the STREET for 72 hours before or after use but not in the driveway--go figure!!!!)

Are there homes for sale in your neighborhood? There probably are and we have been told that is the REALTORS who will be the ones to complain.

There are boats parked in driveways all around our neighborhood, too. We want to comply but it doesn't seem fair to me (and you).

Just wanted you to know that you are not alone and it might not be your neighbors!

Good luck


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GizmosMom wrote:

Hi there, Buzzardcheater--we also live in Austin, in the SW part of town. We store our bass boat (ouch $$$$$)because it will not fit in our garage. We have been cited twice. Apparently, someone saw it when we had the boat home overnight before or after we used it. (BTW-you can park your boat or RV on the STREET for 72 hours before or after use but not in the driveway--go figure!!!!)

Are there homes for sale in your neighborhood? There probably are and we have been told that is the REALTORS who will be the ones to complain.

There are boats parked in driveways all around our neighborhood, too. We want to comply but it doesn't seem fair to me (and you).

Just wanted you to know that you are not alone and it might not be your neighbors!

Good luck


Thanks. I hadn't thought about it being realtors. Yes, there are couple of homes for sale in the neighborhood. That just makes it all the worse to be called in by someone who only wants to make a buck from a sale and doesn't even live in the 'hood. Grumble!

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Stumps wrote:

I'd find out what the ordinance specifically says, then go from there...

Where I live - old town, no HOA, but RVs do have to be behind the front corner of the property, but no fence is required. We're not allowed to have it more than 48 hours in our driveways for purposes of loading or unloading. My first popup I stuck on the side, but my new one I put in the back corner because it is easier to pop it up if the kids want to back yard camp, so I build a gravel parking pad.

I guess what I'm getting at is, since this is something your town has had on the books for a long time, just go with it. Put it where it has to be (I'm assuming side of the house or further back) stick up a fence you'll want to have (it's your yard, afterall) and be done with it. Once you're done, pop up the camper, invite everyone on your street to a hot dog cookout, and then tell everyone about how some new neighbor complained to the town... you might find out who did it and you can at least let them see how much fun camping is, while letting them know how much of a tool they are being...



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Around 1980, one of my neighbors drove a small mini MH on a Toyota chassis. It was his daily driver.

After parking at home Friday night after work he would not drive it again until he went to work Monday morning.

I find it hard to believe that someone would prohibit anyone from parking their daily driver for the weekend either in their driveway on on the street in front of their house, but I suppose there is no telling what some folks will try to regulate.


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Rick Y wrote:

Hudson69 wrote:

Wildcat63 wrote:

Hudson69 wrote:

Tear it up and ignore it.

The city is all bark and no bite.


This would be bad advice to follow. Depending on the city they may cite you and you have to appear in court and some cities may well send a tow truck and remove the offending vehicle at your expense if you continually ignore their letters and don't take steps to take care of the problem. Same as if you didn't mow your lawn. Eventually most cities would send a work crew and mow it then bill the property taxes a very high rate.

Best to try working with them, they very well may give you more time to take care of the issue than the time frame originally stated..



Let them trespass and tow it. Then you have a legal case to sue them.

The city works on intimidation. The people who have fought the city always win, its the ones who give in that tell you that you cant beat the city.

They can bill you what ever they want, they wont be able to collect.
During the course of approximately 20 years with my city I, and the city, was sued 11 times by citizens who felt that my destruction of their property (I was in charge of property seized by the city police) was unlawful. We won 10 of those 11 times. The 11th time was settled prior to court and, according to the city attorney working the case, was settled favorably to the citizen only because it turned out his uncle was a bigwig with the county and the city preferred to spend a little money rather than creating a problem by antagonizing the uncle. Therefore I would be reluctant to tell people that if you fight the city you will always win. 'Tain't necessarily so!


Most people understand the gov't = thugs

And since they run on phoney money they have deep pockets to beat up on their citizens.

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ATL wrote:



Most people understand the gov't = thugs

And since they run on phoney money they have deep pockets to beat up on their citizens.


"Most people" .... really? Kinda doubt that.


Besides, is this forum really the place to debate this? What started out as a legitimate question about the OP's RV parking situation has turned into a rant about the government.

How is that even remotely appropriate for this forum?


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YOu are paying the bill so you should be able to park it where you want to. This is one of the many reaqsons why I live in the country.


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