Tamnative
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DWeikert wrote:nodepositnoreturn wrote:Just tell me what the difference is between having the Cruise Cont. holding the RPM at 1800 or having a cable hold it at 1800 RPM.
The big difference is with cruise control when you come to a hill it'll add throttle to try to maintain a constant speed, probably also causing you to downshift if youre driving an automatic. The cable holds a constant throttle setting and will most likely keep you in the same gear, unless you slow down too much going up the hill.
The Big difference is on the hiway cruise control will shut off when the brakes are applied and it will not work unless you get to a certain speed ,With cable control it will hold you at any RPM that you set it but WILL NOT shut down by using the brakes and could lead to problems during a panic situation.
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Alschott
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Another use for the ole dash throttle cable is to bring your engine speed up a bit so the alternator can either charge the batteries faster or operate a engine mounted hydraulic pump.
I personnally prefer the cruise control for on-road use, we have too many wonderkids cutting in and out of traffic to deal with a dash throttle control.
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Reddog1
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I do not think a hand throttle is legal in all states. I do not think it is legal in California, on public roads. It has been a long time since I researched it.
As I recall, it is a safety issue and has to do with depressing the brake must disengage the throttle.
If someone is really interested, maybe they could do the research and post their findings.
Wayne
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SoCalDesertRider
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I would say Wayne is probly right on the illegality of using it on the highway in most states. It is easy to forget it's on and that could cause a real problem.
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Raften
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Wheelholder has it right, if you intend on leaving the oil in a long time you should get your oil lab tested now and then. I change my oil every 3,000 miles, I always have a concern that the biodiesel might get into my crankcase. Don't really know if that is well founded or not. I am going to take a 4,000 mile trip in the early fall and will have to burn that smelly diesel, ugh!
I have never used a manual throttle on my CTD but kind of wonder how it would work going up a hill. The ECM will throttle up even if I didn't move my foot, I think. I have only noticed that at slow speeds so not sure if it holds true at higher speeds. I like how I can keep my foot off the fuel and let the clutch out on a boat ramp and it will just throttle up to climb. If it is in 4LO granny I can get out and walk beside it if I wanted to.
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Reddog1
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Look at the bright side Raften. You won't have to change your oil. 
Wayne
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Matthew_B
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Raften: Just about any PCM operated engine will have idle speed control, but will not regulate RPM above idle. Even my little rice burner will pull any hill at idle so long as I give the computer time to adjust to the load.
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pjay9
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With all the torque generated with my Smarty JR and Cummins I can feather the throttle climbing so the auto does not shift down until it drops close to 1200 revs. With the CC it would try to keep the speed up and gives it a blast of squirts and downshifts thusly wating fuel.
I have been thinking of doing a Throt Cable...but have not got the layout figured out. Could some pics of the install be posted so I can see how it all went together? Also there are many types of cables available, locking with different knobs, friction turn style and plain jane...what are you using? THX and I hope to have one installed before cross country in Sept. Capt PJ
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Raften
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Matthew_B wrote:Raften: Just about any PCM operated engine will have idle speed control, but will not regulate RPM above idle. Even my little rice burner will pull any hill at idle so long as I give the computer time to adjust to the load.
Thats what I suspected but never owning anything run by a ECM before I had no reference point.
Thats right Wayne, I intend to leave with fresh everything and just drive. I don't really want to make this trip but after some bad experiances in choppers I vowed a long time ago to never leave the ground again. For the first time in 40,000 miles I am going to have to worry about the price of fuel, good grief.
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Matthew_B
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Reddog1 wrote:I do not think a hand throttle is legal in all states. I do not think it is legal in California, on public roads. It has been a long time since I researched it.
As I recall, it is a safety issue and has to do with depressing the brake must disengage the throttle.
If someone is really interested, maybe they could do the research and post their findings.
Wayne
One place to research is what's allowed for hand operated vehicles. Amputees & paraplegics can have the throttle on the steering column. I do believe that the throttle isn't spring return either.
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