Tamnative
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I also have a 2005 Lance 835, You have a PD9145A, the charge wizard is a must. I never have to add water and it is plugged in all year.
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Prostar190
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Thank you Jeff, thats the answer I was looking for.
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Tamnative
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daveshan wrote:My '05 came with the PD 9145, added the Charge Wizard to it, very simple, just plug into the 4 prong female jack on the front of the charger.
Reddog1, isn't the Wizard fully automatic unless you manually override the settings? The instructions make it look like it will automatically drop the charge rate to 13.2 when batteries are fully charged to reduce boiling. The standard PD 9100 stays at 13.6 all the time.
Yes it is automatic and yes you can manually override.
I have had mine on for 4 years and have never had to add water to the batteries. There is a card that comes with the wizard that tells you how to manually operate it and if I haven't fried my batteries I doubt very much if anyone here will
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Reddog1
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Reddog1 wrote:I encourage anyone planning to use the charge Wizard to make sure you know how and when to use it. It is not difficult to overcharge your batteries with it, if not used properly.
Wayne This is a very simple statement, and I see no need for a debate on it. The Wizard is an override. From what I understand, it works great, when you use it properly. If you or a member pushes the button every time they walk buy it, that is not using it properly. If it makes no difference when it is used, it would not override the automatic programing of the charger, it would on all the time.
I have no issue with the PD, and would consider one if my current charger died.
Perhaps one of you would like to explain when and why the Wizard is used? Why is it an override switch? If you do not know the answers to these questions, maybe you should consider my original post. If you know the answers to these questions, then I think you would understand my original post.
Wayne
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Reddog1
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daveshan wrote:My '05 came with the PD 9145, added the Charge Wizard to it, very simple, just plug into the 4 prong female jack on the front of the charger.
Reddog1, isn't the Wizard fully automatic unless you manually override the settings? The instructions make it look like it will automatically drop the charge rate to 13.2 when batteries are fully charged to reduce boiling. The standard PD 9100 stays at 13.6 all the time. From what I understand, the install is very simple. Also from what I understand, your charger is automatic, with the Wizard you can override the automatic settings. That was/is the point of my post. If you do not understand when you should or should not use the override, you may put your batteries at risk.
As I stated, I do not have, nor have I ever had a PD, so I am posting what I understand from my research when I was considering a new charger.
Wayne
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Lots of Stuff
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Installed a Charge Wizard 5 years ago in my 915. Never used the override function, yet it has worked great.
I Recommend them.
My 915 has a plastic grill over the Converter. Removing the grill allowed access for the install. Mounted the control unit outside and alongside the grill.
Can't tell you how to use the override would have to get out the manual. I can tell the conditionof the battery somewhat by watching the flashing LED.
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daveshan
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Reddog1, it looks like you think the Wizard is an override, it isn't it has an override, 2 different things.
It's a charge controller, the 91XX series from PD charges at a steady state of 13.6v, the Wizard senses battery condition (voltage) and adjusts the charge voltage to 14.1v when rapid charge is needed, 13.6v to finish the last 10% of the charge and drops voltage to 13.2v for storage after a set time (30 hours at 13.6, the PD's standard charge rate). Additionally when you're in long term storage at 13.2v every 21 hours it will spike the voltage for a few minutes to 14.1 to prevent sulfation.
You can override the programming to boost charging to 14.1v or drop it to 13.2v but no matter what you do the override only lasts 4 hours. The wizard then reverts to what the battery needs to charge.
The standard PD 91XX series will overcharge if left plugged in for long periods, the Wizard prevents this. The 92xx series has one built in but for those of us with the factory installed 91xx this is a great addition.
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Reddog1
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daveshan wrote:You can override the programming to boost charging to 14.1v or drop it to 13.2v but no matter what you do the override only lasts 4 hours. The wizard then reverts to what the battery needs to charge. Maybe I still do not understand. If you can override the programing, does not the Wizard provide the means? At the conclusion of the four hours, and the Wizard reverts back, can you not override the programming to boost charging again? Hows long must you wait to override the programming to boost charging a second four hours, or a third?
I wonder if the 92xx series (built in Wizard) allows the user to override the programming to boost charging on demand?
Thanks for the input.
Wayne
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Lots of Stuff
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This is the best I can do for Charge wizard info.
Charge Wizard for lead acid batteries
If you have a Inteli-Power 9100 Series Converter without a Charge Wizard buy one you won't be sorry.
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Reddog1
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Lots of Stuff wrote:If you have a Inteli-Power 9100 Series Converter without a Charge Wizard buy one you won't be sorry. This is my understanding, but it is also important to know when and how to use it.
Wayne
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