Legdoc
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I have one question. Was that 1 ton van pulling that 41' weekend warrior at that speed? If so NASA needs to re-think things! But, keep in mind Fords are tough.
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8.1 Van
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willald wrote:8.1 Van wrote:BTW my 8.1 van stays in OD on all grades fully loaded (9,500 lbs non towing) with cruise control set to the 70mph speed limit that I take on my trips to Myrtle Beach SC, Florida etc and have no desire to spend $3,000 for more power.
Of course, just about ANY vehicle could do that in complete stock form, when its drivetrain is only required to put out a small fraction of the power its rated for, like in your case. 
Like I keep saying, Joe, hitch a serious traiiler behind that van (like maybe that 41'er of yours that hasn't moved in years), tow it across a few mountain passes, then come back and tell us how great it is. Until then...Your use of that van really doesn't carry much weight (pun intended, LOL).
Quote:The performance headers and exhaust only have an advantage with wide open throttle and don't do anything with cruise set to the speed limit.
Maybe I missed something in your link there, but I think the last poster's point still stands - I don't see any headers or exhaust upgrades listed there that will fit in the van. Am I missing something?
Why should I tow my 41ft TT to Myrtle Beach this coming saturday when it will cost me much less to stay at Seaside like it did last year ?
There is a better chance of me towing my TT to the moon than over a mountain pass since all of our road trips in the last 23 years have been on the east coast. We have almost a million Marriott Rewards points and two timeshares so campgrounds will not be a destination anytime soon.
BTW explain exactly why I need performance parts to drive on I-95 with an 8.1 big block van ?
2002 Chevy Express LS 3500 8.1 155" WB passenger van 3.73 posi (GT4/G80)
2003 Thor Citation 41-ZBSR 41ft TT
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carringb
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No, I have never been to the salt flats.
As far as CARB goes, yes, the Banks kit is CARB approved for the V10 if the correct kit is ordered for a 50-state V10 (which mine is and I'm pretty sure all newer ones are).
And no, the weekend warrior has never gone that fast. But in states with a higher speed limit, 75 was no problem other than sucking more fuel. It actually had some pretty decent tires that did not heat up at those speeds. The weekend warrior actually had less drag than the flatbed with a 4-stack of rafts that I was towing this weekend (as was evident the MPGs or lack there-of).
BTW - I did not build up the van with intent of making it fast. But upgrades to improve towing performance happen to have other nice side effects.
Bryan
2000 Ford E350 DRW Wagon (14-pass all captains chairs)
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Had: Weekend Warrior 41' FSW
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willald
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Quote:Why should I tow my 41ft TT to Myrtle Beach this coming saturday when it will cost me much less to stay at Seaside like it did last year ?
There is a better chance of me towing my TT to the moon than over a mountain pass since all of our road trips in the last 23 years have been on the east coast. We have almost a million Marriott Rewards points and two timeshares so campgrounds will not be a destination anytime soon.
BTW explain exactly why I need performance parts to drive on I-95 with an 8.1 big block van ?
You tell me why, you're the one that brought up the fact that there are such parts available, and implied they could be put on your van.
And while we're explaining needs: Explain exactly why you even need a big block AT ALL in the first place, just to haul passengers on I-95, and never tow ANYTHING, by your own words above? I'm thinking, you coulda got a van with much less engine, that woulda done the job just as well while using much less gas.
Oh, thats right, you still have to maintain the illusion to everyone that one day you *might* tow something, right?
Will
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8.1 Van
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willald wrote:Quote:Why should I tow my 41ft TT to Myrtle Beach this coming saturday when it will cost me much less to stay at Seaside like it did last year ?
There is a better chance of me towing my TT to the moon than over a mountain pass since all of our road trips in the last 23 years have been on the east coast. We have almost a million Marriott Rewards points and two timeshares so campgrounds will not be a destination anytime soon.
BTW explain exactly why I need performance parts to drive on I-95 with an 8.1 big block van ?
You tell me why, you're the one that brought up the fact that there are such parts available, and implied they could be put on your van.
And while we're explaining needs: Explain exactly why you even need a big block AT ALL in the first place, just to haul passengers on I-95, and never tow ANYTHING, by your own words above? I'm thinking, you coulda got a van with much less engine, that woulda done the job just as well while using much less gas.
Oh, thats right, you still have to maintain the illusion to everyone that one day you *might* tow something, right?
Will
The 8.1 big block will run all day in 95° heat with AC fully loaded and cruise set to 70mph and stay in OD were the smallblock will not. The smallblock will not get better gas mileage doing that since it will need to be in a higher rpm range to do the same thing. BTW I see you still have a giant bug up your butt.
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willald
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8.1 Van wrote:The 8.1 big block will run all day in 95° heat with AC fully loaded and cruise set to 70mph and stay in OD were the smallblock will not. The smallblock will not get better gas mileage doing that since it will need to be in a higher rpm range to do the same thing.
The smallblock won't? How would you know, have you tried one in that circumstance?
Towing NOTHING, on flat interstates....Ummm, I'm not so sure a smaller V8 wouldn't do just fine, and get better mileage. Of course, it wouldn't let you maintain the illusion to everyone that you will tow a trailer again one day, so I can see why you went with the big block.
Will
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DaCarmack
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8.1 Van, on the Hypertec it never got rid of the torque management, and I did not see that on the PUP. Do you still have torque management on the Van? At lest on the 6.0L GM, had to send the whole computer off to get rid of it, but man what a different's
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8.1 Van
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My 8.1 van is stock and has the stock GM torque management program that feels perfect to me and would not want a weenie small block with 100ft/lb less torque in it the way I drive.
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Hannibal
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Looks like it's been wrecked. The door and front fender don't match exactly and the gap looks a little off. Wheels are kinda gawdy looking too. Why not a new van with a Duramax and Allison? A van just reeks of henpecked dork as it is but at least the Dmax would put a little testosterone in that Mr. Rogers image. 200ft/lbs more torque than that piston slapping clatter box and better mileage.
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DaCarmack
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Very good 8.1 Van. I for one dislike torque management. On the 6.0 and the 8.1 I have driven with a tach in them, if you have your foot on the floor as the RPM's go past 4000ish you can watch and here the motor loss RPM's, maybe down to 3700ish, the back up again. I've also notice it on take off to. If you floor it really fast, it does not seem to "pick up" as fast as if you were to push it down slowly to the floor.
I keep that van. Its a rare bird.
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