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Donald manaly

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Posted: 11/01/09 10:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A newbe here. Can anyone tell me at what lenght and weight I should be looking at a 5th wheel with 3 axles instead of 2.
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Posted: 11/01/09 10:37am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No because different manufacturers have different ideas of where 3 axles are necessary. I would guess that a trailer over 34 feet might have 3 axles. My 35 foot King of the Road does. But I have seen 40 footers with 2.


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Posted: 11/01/09 10:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a triple axle on my WW FS3000 it's 35' from hitch to bumper. It tows very easy in a straight line, even in high winds. but It does grind up tires when I turn. Don't get me wrong lane changes and hwy on/off ramps no wories, But turns from intersections and U turns (if I dare) leave nice black lines on the road.
But the main thing is the axle rating, that will tell you if you need a single axle or a ???

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Posted: 11/01/09 11:13am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Why a builder would use 2 or 3 axles isn't so simple.

There might be three 5200# axles when they could have used two 7, 8 or 9k axles.

Newmar builds unit that have 2 9k's and eight tires with a GVW of 20K. But on their toy haulers they use three axles.

I think a lot of it has to do with marketing. Some guys just think three is more or better.

* This post was edited 11/01/09 12:33pm by Luke Porter *


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Posted: 11/01/09 03:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Ours is 37 ft and has two 7000# axles.


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AS pointed out above, it depends on the manufacture. Our Travel Supreme is 40' and is a triple axle unit. I think it was Newmar that was doing 40' fifth wheels on two axles, but they were dual wheel axles.
One thing to keep in mind about a triple axle trailer is that in tight turns there is a lot of flex and stress placed on the axles. You can see this in how the tires tend to push off to the side of the wheels....not a pretty sight to look at. Caused a lot of pressure on the sidewall of the tires.


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Posted: 11/02/09 07:14am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Just depends on how much weight you plan to carry. The extra axle may give you a little more flexibility

Another thought, with a triple axle if a tire blows (every RV'er has or will have a tire failure story) there are (hopefully) still two tires left on that side to hold the load.


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If I were looking....I'd look for something with 2 axels. If it was over 12,000# one with 17.5" wheels with "H" rated tires.

There's always more problems with tires than axels. (plus nobody's going to install tires with a greater weight rating than the axels)

The simple thing to do would be to look on the tire, multiply by 4 (or 6) and compare the total to the weight of the camper. My rule of thumb is tires loaded to 75% of capacity.

There's toy haulers out there that only have tire/axel combinations that are only sufficient to carry the camper empty! It's a real "buyer beware" situation.


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2 axle is better in tight turns, 3 axle has 50% more brakes.
For highway traveling, 3 axle is better, for city driving / campgrounds 2 axle is better. Larger towhaulers tend ot have 3 axles for better weight distribution, but 2 9k axles + pin weight will exceed the gcvwr on any dually.





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Posted: 11/03/09 05:41am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Of course the best thing is tandem duals. Mine is 40' and has triples but I would rather have tandem axles with dual wheels. I've only seen one or two that had them.





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