Earl E
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They are options on new AF's. But you can buy storm windows ($450 for my 32-5S) that clip on the inside of the windows. Many people feel they are as effective as the dual panes and you can remove them and easily store them under the bed. They are on my wish list. You can order them from any AF or Nash dealer.
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BurbMan
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We got dual pane tinted windows on our 08 Terry. We ordered ours from the factory so we got everthing we wanted on it. I get no condensation at all with the heat running which is nice. Another unexpected side benefit is that they are a lot quieter...noise doesn't transmit through the dual pane windows in a crowded CG like it does with single pane.
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Grumpygp
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My Jayco Eagle 322FKS was ordered with Thermalpane windows.I wouldn't buy a trailer with out them.
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coolbreeze01
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Fisherguy wrote:
I've been looking for 2 months so far, there's just not much to choose from up here and I can't afford a new trailer.
Do you have thermal's in your trailer?
Not in the trailer, but I would if I was ordering one. Hope you find what you want.
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travelnutz
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All of the RV's we have purchased except one were new and we always included separate removable framed storm windows on them at time of purchase or ordering the RV. Simple turn clips hold them in. The one used RV we purchased did not have storms so I made my own. Now many of our RV friends are making their own also. Very easy to do! I had tried to purchase storms from Hehr Window Co for the used RV but they said they no longer make storms for RV's as few people would pay the costs and several manufacturers are using dual pane windows in their higher level RV's. Yes. most people are cheap and perhaps would rather put up with dripping condensation and cold flowing down off the windows! They just crank the furnace up and complain about the window chill going down their backs not to mention what damage the dripping condensation does to the RV walls, floor, and internal structure. Storms are great for summer heat on the windows you normally don't open also. What works in cold for insulation also works in heat for insulation/dead air space!
Now for making your own storms:
I used 1/4" (actually .220 thick) Lexan because it's less prone to cracking than Plexiglas and easier to cut and sand the edges. Also cheaper. Why 1/4" thick? Because it's stiffer, lays flat, and you can use about half the turn clips to keep it sealed and flat looking. I used 5/16" offset home door window turn clips that are widely available at most lumber yards, Lowes, Home Depot, Menards, etc in various colors. White, gray, black, etc. They are plastic and look like a short tube with a flange on one side. Replace the present RV window screws with at least 1/4" longer screws and into the same holes where the window screws are now. No hole drilling required.
Don't use a wavy saber saw blade as it heats up the window material from friction and then fuses to the blade and also together behind the cut. What a mess! Use a true alternating tooth offset fine (20 to 24 tooth) blade or a bandsaw if you have a large enough one. Leaving the protective vinyl cover totally on the material to preven scratching, scribe a line where you want to cut and spray a narrow line of liquid Silicone lubricant on the scribed line. This makes the blade cut much easier, prevents any plastic from adhereing to the cutting blade, and keeps the heat really low. Cut slowly so you don't cause small cracks from the oscillating blade vibration. You must support the window material and it's best to put a board over the top also as close to the cut as practical. Next, clean the Silicone spray off with a solvent such as Lacquer thinner or something that won't attack the plastic. I use lacquer thinner and have had no problems. Sand the edges to size and shape with a power sander with a 100 grit or coarser and break the corner edge sharpness. Wipe clean or bolw off all shavings so you don't scratch things. Check for fit. If ok, remove the protective vinyl and clean the plastic well.
Next, go around the outside 3'8" of the storms edge on what will be the inside of the storm with a self adhesive 3/8" wide X 3/16" thick foam weather stripping. I prefer using closed cell foam but it's stiffer. So cheap and efficient and lasts.
To install the storm: put at least 2 of the turn clips along the aluminum window frame's bottom to set your new storm on and at least one at the top to hold the storm in place. Next put in all the turn clips you desire and when the screws are snugged up, it will depress the foam about 1/16" and create a true seal. Turn clips will still be turnable for easy removable and reinstall. 8 windows took/takes a full afternoon to make and install. At least that's what it took me and what our friends tell me. Total cost is a fraction of purchased storms. That's even if you could find them. Your self made windows will look every bit as good and professional as if you had the purchased ones. Some of the self made storms are over 7 years old now a still in fine shape. Beats the devil out of heavy breakable glass windows. Clean only with a moistened clean cloth with a glass cleaner etc and never rub with a dry cloth or coarse rag as it is likey to scratch the plastic and creates static electricity causing dirt/dust to cling like a magnet.
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Fisherguy
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BurbMan wrote:We got dual pane tinted windows on our 08 Terry. We ordered ours from the factory so we got everthing we wanted on it. I get no condensation at all with the heat running which is nice. Another unexpected side benefit is that they are a lot quieter...noise doesn't transmit through the dual pane windows in a crowded CG like it does with single pane.
Right, those are EXACTLY the reasons we have not been looking at anything without double pane windows. We've been RV'ing since 1981, we'v put up with single pane all these years but on out next trailer we want double pane.
Inside storm are not really an option, they're a pain, once they're on yopu csn't even open a window like if you're cooking or something, and you gotta store them somewhere. My friend has them on his AF, he's had the trailer 2 seasons and he'a alredy broken one, of course the biggest one...
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Fisherguy wrote:
Yes I am pissed of Glazier, but if no one down there gets trailers with them and I can't find one up here what are my options?
Your options are those plastic sheets all the stores sell in the fall to insulate windows in old houses. They shrink when heated with a hair dryer and make a good seal. For fresh air you can open your ceiling vents and run the vent-fan over your stove's burners.
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Fisherguy
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BTW, I checked out the dealer with the Better Business Bureau where they have an F rating.
In the meantime the sales manager is unwilling to refund my deposit and says I'm getting a great deal. 
He tells me we went over everything, he seems to not be understanding the fact his salesman told me 3 times it has dual pane windows which it doesn't...? 
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Fisherguy wrote:BTW, I checked out the dealer with the Better Business Bureau where they have an F rating.
In the meantime the sales manager is unwilling to refund my deposit and says I'm getting a great deal.
He tells me we went over everything, he seems to not be understanding the fact his salesman told me 3 times it has dual pane windows which it doesn't...?
If push comes to shove. Let him know that you will volunteer to be the new 'greeter' at his dealership and you will let all the potential customers know about how they conduct business.
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BillB800si
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Grumpygp wrote:My Jayco Eagle 322FKS was ordered with Thermalpane windows.I wouldn't buy a trailer with out them.
Same here. I think the adder was about $1200 but we feel it was worth it. Another BIG benefit was the window opening area. With the Thermopane windows half the area opens up for ventilation. We've noticed on standard windows that only a small area is actually screened and open to the outside.
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