The Black Pearl
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I had imported two ATV's from the US. I required a sticker for each of them to have them accepted and plated by Canada. I am planning on buying my trailer from Albany and the weather is pretty close to Ontario, so weather is not a factor in this case. I have sent an email off to the Canadian Border Services to see what they say. Again the additional $179 is probably another Canadian cash grab for no true reason. I am extremely agitated to find this little road block, however the difference for a 28R is significant. The Canadian price is $26,000.00 base. I can buy a fully loaded one for $21,000.00 US or $23,100 Canadian and that is negotiating over the internet. The $3K could cover the Henseley hitch I want and gets me more options such as the 15K air conditioner, alloy wheels, satelite set up, water purifier etc. As a consumer if I am paying more money for anything I expect value. What is the $179? Why are the Canadian prices wacked as always.
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Wayne Dohnal
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For example--it is illegal to parallel two Honda generator's in Canada.
Honda will be getting in trouble then, because they are selling parallel-capable generators in Canada. Parallel-capable eu1000iC.
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Starburst2
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In addition to some of the other things mentioned I was told by a dealer that to get an RV passed into Canada the propane delivery system had to be black iron pipe from the tank to the point where it enters the floor of the RV whereas it can be conducted in copper pipe all the way under UL standard. From a safety perspective it makes sense to get use the iron pipe from tank to through the floor and I see many coaches in the US that use that standard. Maybe the dealer was giving me a line of BS.
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pianotuna
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Hi Wayne,
Yes they are selling them--but not the kits to parallel them, or at least that is the story my local dealer gave me 3 years ago. It may have changed.
Wayne Dohnal wrote:Quote:
For example--it is illegal to parallel two Honda generator's in Canada.
Honda will be getting in trouble then, because they are selling parallel-capable generators in Canada. Parallel-capable eu1000iC.
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The Black Pearl
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Great, another item to add. Honda Generators. I was going to buy to 1000 and parallel them....Why can you buy Kipor at RV shops and parallel them. The kits are bought over the counter?
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bruceteri
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It could also be better insulated for the cooler weather.
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The Black Pearl
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Better insulated for colder weather would not be the case. I got a quote from a dealer 100 miles from where I live. Unless there is a weather force field that seperates the weather at the US/Canadian border that would be the case. Its a cash grab.
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The CSA standard is on my opinion stricter than the American standard, but due to industrial pressure, CSA have eased up. And don't forget, the csa is not capable to enforce any of their standards since the Canadian Standards Association is a nonprofit membership-based association serving businesses.And if you read the CSA book, you'll notice that they do approve ul standards.Not that they have a choice. A lot of the products are build in China or India.And the manufacturers over there are not going to spend any extra time and money on adding the CSA logo on their products.
I see a new trend starting where very few manufacturers stopped applying the CSA sticker, because they don't want to pay them anymore.Claiming that they still build them to the same level as Canadian Standards Association requirements. But from what I see that's not the case.
Some of the differences between the American and Canadian standards?
Well one thing that comes to mind are the lp lines. Canadian regulation states that we use schedule 40 piping with copper only(copper lines are to be protected), unless used in a slide out, where rubber hoses are permitted. While the Americans do allow rubber hoses under the belly.
I personally think , we should have a harmonized North American standard run by the government like Department of transportation or Transport Canada without being pushed by the industry to make them cheaper. It would life easier for the industry and the consumer.
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dougrainer
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CSA just means the vehicle must meet the CSA standards for construction. When I built RV's 35 years ago, when a CSA unit came down the line, we had to use LARGER gauge wiring in the units to meet CSA standards. Both 12 volt and 120 volt wire had minimum larger gauge standards than USA built units. Plumbing (LP and Water) also had certain minimum standards that differed from USA built units. Doug
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garyhaupt
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The Black Pearl wrote: $21,000.00 US or $23,100 Canadian and that is negotiating over the internet. The $3K could cover the Henseley hitch I want and gets me more options such as the 15K air conditioner, alloy wheels, satelite set up, water purifier etc. As a consumer if I am paying more money for anything I expect value. What is the $179? Why are the Canadian prices wacked as always.
WTF are you complaining about? You are going to drop over 23 thousand bux, Cdn and you are whining about 179. You either need a serious life adjustment or a swift boot. Be grateful you have that kind of lifestyle.
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